Popular Post UpTheVilla26 Posted January 22, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 22, 2023 Mings has been superb for us from the day he walked through the door on loan in the Championship. Every player makes mistakes, unfortunately for CBs they are usually more costly. I would not swap Mings for any other defender in the Prem. He's a leader on and off the pitch, he oozes charisma and he's also reacted brilliantly to the shocking treatment dealt out by the previous manager. 29 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderPower_14 Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 Zero surprises that he's back to his best under the right Manager. Just wish Gerrard torpedoing the side didn't cost him and possibly a few of his teammates a WC spot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 If Che Adams hadnt been offside I'd have been in here having a moan that he let the ball in go across him rather than trying to play it... But he obviously only did that because he knew he was offside Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted January 22, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted January 22, 2023 Mings was interviewed about a week ago and he was talking about the defenders celebrating catching players offside because that’s what they work on. Quote Defenders, meanwhile, are drilled on staying in line to help catch opposition forwards offside – something which paid off against Leeds when Rodrigo saw a first half effort chalked off. Mings said: “You see us celebrate offsides - quite heavily - because that’s what we are focused upon. If we hold our line and the attacker is offside, it’s dead. You saw that against Leeds with their disallowed goal.” E&S link Plus we saw only recently what can happen if a defender touches the ball and it still goes through to the striker. Offside rule goes out the window. I don’t know whether he knew the forward was offside, unless he states outright, we won’t know. But as he literally stated they’re working on it, I’m inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt and say he and Konsa had their defensive line worked out. Because he was clearly offside. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperTed Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 On 16/10/2022 at 16:49, SuperTed said: You make a good point but still doesn’t make for pleasant reading. I’m not sure of the statistics for errors leading to shots but again I imagine he’d be quite high up there too. I don’t think he’s good enough to be honest. For me he sits with El Ghazi, Trez, etc. Thank you for what you’ve done for the club but it’s time to move on. Just my opinion and I know a few will shoot me down but if we’re serious about progressing, even without Gerrard, we need a better CB. Happily will retract these comments and admit he’s been brilliant since Emery came in. Genuinely really pleased for him and long may it continue. Love you Ty! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HongKongVillan Posted January 22, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted January 22, 2023 Since the WC he has been a better defender than Eric Dier, John Stones, Conor Coady. Only Harry Maguire is may be on par with him right now based on form, but that's because he hasn't **** play a game! Of course Southgate will call up Gheuhi instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 27 minutes ago, Mark Albrighton said: Mings was interviewed about a week ago and he was talking about the defenders celebrating catching players offside because that’s what they work on. E&S link Plus we saw only recently what can happen if a defender touches the ball and it still goes through to the striker. Offside rule goes out the window. I don’t know whether he knew the forward was offside, unless he states outright, we won’t know. But as he literally stated they’re working on it, I’m inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt and say he and Konsa had their defensive line worked out. Because he was clearly offside. He 100% knew, because in the build up he checked the line, twice and then knew to let the ball go as he was sure they were offside. Credit where it's due, that's good defending like any blocked shot is 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 26 minutes ago, SuperTed said: Happily will retract these comments and admit he’s been brilliant since Emery came in. Genuinely really pleased for him and long may it continue. Love you Ty! He was brilliant under Smith and now again under Emery. Or more you could say last season he had a blip the season before last and this season he's been superb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 Mingsdini 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 Him not going to the World Cup was a blessing. The extra time under Don Unai shows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 Also just seen a stat come up on sky sports there. Most interceptions in PL. C Doucoure is 1st on 33, Rice 2nd, Gueye 3rd with Mings 4th on 30, Soucek 5th on 29. So he's the only non CM in the top 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 3 minutes ago, CVByrne said: He 100% knew, because in the build up he checked the line, twice and then knew to let the ball go as he was sure they were offside. Credit where it's due, that's good defending like any blocked shot is Agreed. It's really irritated me reading some reports about us being "fortunate" that they had one ruled out for offside. It wasn't fortunate, both of their forwards were clearly off, and we knew it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 Just now, Davkaus said: Agreed. It's really irritated me reading some reports about us being "fortunate" that they had one ruled out for offside. It wasn't fortunate, both of their forwards were clearly off, and we knew it. Yeah it wasn't even VAR that rules it out, it was clear as day to linesman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 (edited) 52 minutes ago, ThunderPower_14 said: Zero surprises that he's back to his best under the right Manager. Just wish Gerrard torpedoing the side didn't cost him and possibly a few of his teammates a WC spot. He was still playing well under Gerrard. The lack of WC call up was purely on Southgate Edited January 22, 2023 by mikeyp102 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 42 minutes ago, Davkaus said: Agreed. It's really irritated me reading some reports about us being "fortunate" that they had one ruled out for offside. It wasn't fortunate, both of their forwards were clearly off, and we knew it. It's bizarre that it's sometimes use as a negative against the defence when it really is a positive as it shows they're doing their job. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 1 hour ago, CVByrne said: Also just seen a stat come up on sky sports there. Most interceptions in PL. C Doucoure is 1st on 33, Rice 2nd, Gueye 3rd with Mings 4th on 30, Soucek 5th on 29. So he's the only non CM in the top 5 19 of them have come since the Brentford game 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWARLEY2 Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 22 minutes ago, Zatman said: 19 of them have come since the Brentford game That is a stat and a half . That high back line is obviously giving him a different role Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messi11 Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 He's been solid since Emery come in. His passing and decision making have improved a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderPower_14 Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 3 hours ago, mikeyp102 said: He was still playing well under Gerrard. The lack of WC call up was purely on Southgate Agree! We were just on the nose because of our awful form. If the squad was being picked today, I think Mings probably goes despite Southgate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLVillan Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 My biggest criticism of Mings until recently was his tendency to drop behind everyone and play everyone onside. Emery seems to be fixing that and the only times we've seen the back four getting caught out recently has been one of the fullbacks not holding the line, which tends to be the "normal" way that defences get caught out (fullbacks tracking runners too deep). If he can speed-up his brain/decision making on the ball (he still tends to think about his pass after he's got it under control as opposed to knowing his next move before he gets it) then he will have eradicated two of his flaws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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