Stevo985 Posted June 4, 2018 Author VT Supporter Share Posted June 4, 2018 Anyway, away from this really weird argument... Had chicken with dinner last night and that was the first meat I've had all week. I'm going on holiday in less than a month so I think I'll set my return from that as the start of me going completely meat free. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 Valentine Warner does a fantastic vegetarian (though not vegan) lasagne. It's spinach and mushroom with garlic cream sauce. I've made it a few times and it's delicious. https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/seasonal-success-with-valentine-warner-243339 Quote Ingredients • 1kg/2lb wild mushrooms • 3 garlic cloves • 3 good sprigs of fresh thyme • Olive oil • Salt • 1kg/2lb spinach • Freshly grated nutmeg • 50g/2oz Parmesan cheese, freshly grated • Dried sheets of pasta • 300-350g/11oz-12oz sheep’s curd or soft fresh goat’s cheese • Freshly grated black pepper • 50ml/2fl oz single cream 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted June 4, 2018 Moderator Share Posted June 4, 2018 Parmesan Cheese isn't vegetarian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ingram85 Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 Oh my days just let it go Bicks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 33 minutes ago, bickster said: Parmesan Cheese isn't vegetarian The traditional recipe isn't. Fortunately there are some knock offs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted June 4, 2018 Author VT Supporter Share Posted June 4, 2018 25 minutes ago, Ingram85 said: Oh my days just let it go Bicks I've never seen someone so desperate to catch people out 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted June 4, 2018 Moderator Share Posted June 4, 2018 1 minute ago, Davkaus said: The traditional recipe isn't. Fortunately there are some knock offs. Not Parmesan then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lapal_fan Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 Just now, bickster said: Not Parmesan then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lapal_fan Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 1 minute ago, bickster said: Not Parmesan then plz stahp being so pedantic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted June 4, 2018 Moderator Share Posted June 4, 2018 3 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: I've never seen someone so desperate to catch people out No point claiming something is vegetarian when it isn't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ingram85 Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 Does it matter though? I can hold a boiled egg in my hand and say it’s a 1969 Chevy Camaro if I want to. Sometimes, just sometimes, be the one to let it go and ignore it even though you know you are right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ingram85 Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 You’re going to tell me Chevrolet didn’t manufacture a Camaro in 1969 now aren’t you or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lapal_fan Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 16 hours ago, bickster said: Vegetarian breakfast... Vegetarian lasagne.... vegetarian spag bol... seriously, why bother imitating meat dishes, really don't get that. This is the sauce of it really. And the easy answer is, it's because it's easy to call something "veggie XXX" than to make a new name, which you'd then have to explain/advertise (ergo waste money) what it is etc. A veggie lasagne, isn't lasagne per se, but you know roughly what you're getting into, cheese, pasta and filling layers. The same applies to all "veggie" stuff. The only one which doesn't really check out is veggie bacon, because you can't really call it that, because it is so different, even if it is trying to taste somewhat similar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lapal_fan Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, Ingram85 said: Does it matter though? I can hold a boiled egg in my hand and say it’s a 1969 Chevy Camaro if I want to. Sometimes, just sometimes, be the one to let it go and ignore it even though you know you are right. Can you please do that? I'd enjoy seeing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, lapal_fan said: The only one which doesn't really check out is veggie bacon, because you can't really call it that, because it is so different, even if it is trying to taste somewhat similar. I've seen shitake mushrooms masquerade as veggie bacon before. It looked pretty similar. Can't comment on the taste though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted June 4, 2018 Moderator Share Posted June 4, 2018 17 minutes ago, lapal_fan said: This is the sauce of it really. And the easy answer is, it's because it's easy to call something "veggie XXX" than to make a new name, which you'd then have to explain/advertise (ergo waste money) what it is etc. A veggie lasagne, isn't lasagne per se, but you know roughly what you're getting into, cheese, pasta and filling layers. The same applies to all "veggie" stuff. The only one which doesn't really check out is veggie bacon, because you can't really call it that, because it is so different, even if it is trying to taste somewhat similar. Would it really cost money to call it Spinach and Ricotta Lasagne? Seriously? Not so seriously, it would probably taste nicer if it were made from actual vegetarians And in the real world, I'd be more likely to eat Pepper and Mushroom Chilli than I would something called a vegetarian chilli Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 (edited) I mean, in the article that triggered your latest posts, it's referred to as "wild mushroom lasagne". 'vegetarian lasagne' is pretty generic. It might be mushrooms, or spinach and ricotta. I usually put lentils in mine. It's fairly helpful to have a term that's not so specific, so if I'm looking for recipes I can cast the net out far and wide and look for all of th different variations of a veggie lasagne. Would you have also liked them to refer to it as "imitation, rennet-less parmesan-style cheese"? Edited June 4, 2018 by Davkaus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 Just to clarify, neither I nor Valentine Warner are vegetarian. That mushroom lasagne with no meat is still great though. (Also, if we are being pedants, lasagne is the name of the pasta, not the filling. The traditional lasagna with meat and white sauce that is typically referenced as 'lasagne' is called Lasagne al Forno). 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choffer Posted June 4, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted June 4, 2018 40 minutes ago, bickster said: And in the real world, I'd be more likely to eat Pepper and Mushroom Chilli than I would something called a vegetarian chilli I know what you mean. I'd never have a "Mighty Meaty" but would definitely have a pepperoni with added bacon and sausage from Dominos 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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