Zatman Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 3 minutes ago, sne said: Zidane Solskjaer is a better comparison though. Zidane took over Real Madrid but Solskjaer had similar ideas to play the game and his stint at Cardiff is very similar to our situation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacketspuds Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 Just now, hippo said: He was IMO never going to walk. The novelty factor of Henry will be long gone by mid October. Why are you so certain that Henry would fail? Either way, I have a lot more faith in our new owners whatever their decision is, compared to if Dr Tony was left to do it. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meregreen Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 I’m looking forward to seeing us at least try and play some decent football under Henry. It’s been two seasons of utter garbage from Bruce and his soon to be gone coaching team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junxs Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 1 minute ago, Zatman said: no outstanding candidate as we dont have a vacancy and managers wont through there name out for a job that doesnt exist We aren't in a position to go and get the established best managers, we were half way decent club back then in the premier league. The best type of established manager we can attract down here is the likes of Pardew, Moyes and Pulis. So I would rather try to get the next up and coming good manager like Huddesfield, Fulham and Wolves did 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 1 minute ago, Zatman said: Solskjaer is a better comparison though. Zidane took over Real Madrid but Solskjaer had similar ideas to play the game and his stint at Cardiff is very similar to our situation What are Henry's ideas to play the game? Would be interesting to read as I've not read up on him yet. Any links to interviews or such. If he is to be our new manager (doubt it) I'd like to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 Just now, Junxs said: We aren't in a position to go and get the established best managers, we were half way decent club back then in the premier league. The best type of established manager we can attract down here is the likes of Pardew, Moyes and Pulis. So I would rather try to get the next up and coming good manager like Huddesfield, Fulham and Wolves did Jokanovic had a promotion on his belt, Nuno was a Champions League manager at Valencia and Porto. If they can attract managers like that why cant we go and attract similar especially with this alleged funding coming through 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 Just now, Junxs said: We aren't in a position to go and get the established best managers, we were half way decent club back then in the premier league. The best type of established manager we can attract down here is the likes of Pardew, Moyes and Pulis. So I would rather try to get the next up and coming good manager like Huddesfield, Fulham and Wolves did Well one of owners is worth £7bn - and Nathan Jones at Luton is an up and coming manager. Henry isn't even a manager - let alone up and coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 Just now, sne said: What are Henry's ideas to play the game? Would be interesting to read as I've not read up on him yet. Any links to interviews or such. If he is to be our new manager (doubt it) I'd like to know. well everybody assumes because he played for Arsenal and Barcelona he is going to want us playing from the back and have a silky style of football when he will inherit Elphick, Jedinak and Whelan It really has disaster all over it like Houllier trying get Collins, Dunne and Reo-Coker to play out from back 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted July 23, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted July 23, 2018 16 minutes ago, DaveAV1 said: Yeah but his second season will be in the Premiership. What, we're relocating to Scotland? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 Just now, Zatman said: well everybody assumes because he played for Arsenal and Barcelona he is going to want us playing from the back and have a silky style of football when he will inherit Elphick, Jedinak and Whelan It really has disaster all over it like Houllier trying get Collins, Dunne and Reo-Coker to play out from back OK sorry, thought you had read something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 1 minute ago, sne said: What are Henry's ideas to play the game? Would be interesting to read as I've not read up on him yet. Any links to interviews or such. If he is to be our new manager (doubt it) I'd like to know. He wants the change the culture, and the ethos of the club and give us a real playing identity, lay foundations for the future with modern coaching methods - and any other cliche these managers who barley win a game talk about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 2 minutes ago, Zatman said: well everybody assumes because he played for Arsenal and Barcelona he is going to want us playing from the back and have a silky style of football when he will inherit Elphick, Jedinak and Whelan It really has disaster all over it like Houllier trying get Collins, Dunne and Reo-Coker to play out from back Precisely - and a bit worrying that our new overlords don't see that. could easily end up in a relegation scrap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sne Posted July 23, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 23, 2018 Just now, hippo said: He wants the change the culture, and the ethos of the club and give us a real playing identity, lay foundations for the future with modern coaching methods - and any other cliche these managers who barley win a game talk about. What a bastard! We are doing splendid as we are. Just need a transfer window a pre-season and some more time and we'll be walking this league. 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 1 hour ago, Demitri_C said: Wtf?? Thia is unbeleivable if true I have no idea the logic of this. Its about as logical as Villa getting relegated, then get taken over by a supposed Chinese billionaire, then blowing all the money within 2 seasons, and then getting saved from administration by two other billionaires. Yes we are living in some strange times. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junxs Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 1 minute ago, Zatman said: Jokanovic had a promotion on his belt, Nuno was a Champions League manager at Valencia and Porto. If they can attract managers like that why cant we go and attract similar especially with this alleged funding coming through FFP.. we cant go and spend the limited amount we have on poaching and paying millions in compensation. We have to look at whats available, conversations would have been had with Henry - he comes across as a very intelligent guy and would have put forward some good convincing ideas. Everybody has to start somewhere, why cant we be the ones to give a guy a chance for once rather than always going for the 'established' guys who always fail. Now is the best time to try something like this as we arent going up with Bruce and we arent going down with someone else. Let him build for a couple of years, see where it takes us. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 Just now, Junxs said: FFP.. we cant go and spend the limited amount we have on poaching and paying millions in compensation. We have to look at whats available, conversations would have been had with Henry - he comes across as a very intelligent guy and would have put forward some good convincing ideas. Everybody has to start somewhere, why cant we be the ones to give a guy a chance for once rather than always going for the 'established' guys who always fail. Now is the best time to try something like this as we arent going up with Bruce and we arent going down with someone else. Let him build for a couple of years, see where it takes us. Henry just quit a 4million a year job, he isnt going to quit SKY for much less than that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 1 minute ago, Junxs said: FFP.. we cant go and spend the limited amount we have on poaching and paying millions in compensation. We have to look at whats available, conversations would have been had with Henry - he comes across as a very intelligent guy and would have put forward some good convincing ideas. Everybody has to start somewhere, why cant we be the ones to give a guy a chance for once rather than always going for the 'established' guys who always fail. Now is the best time to try something like this as we arent going up with Bruce and we arent going down with someone else. Let him build for a couple of years, see where it takes us. I can honestly see Henry lasting less than a season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 Henry wouldn't a Steve Round replacement would he ? -hope springs eternal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDuck Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 Henry would be a worthwhile gamble I think. Seems like a smart man who knows his own mind, certainly when it comes to football. He's got to start somewhere... Worst case though is that he'd be a disaster and relegate us. And whatever you think about Bruce, I'd say it's highly unlikely that he'd take us down. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junxs Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 7 minutes ago, hippo said: I can honestly see Henry lasting less than a season. Because he does so well that Arsenal nick him? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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