One For The Road Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 32 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: Sherwood is the worst manager we have ever employed. And he was the last "experiment" of a manager with little experience. Henry has even LESS than he did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Wainy316 Posted October 9, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted October 9, 2018 37 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: Sherwood is the worst manager we have ever employed. And yet still give us our most enjoyable 3 months of the last 8 years. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razor Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 Just now, Wainy316 said: And yet still give us our most enjoyable 3 months of the last 8 years. For a couple of months we really played some beautiful football, I remember saying to my mate 'we are actually playing like Barcelona!' and then Kammy said the same thing seconds after on Soccer Saturday. It went to pieces quite rapidly though and his team selections were bizarre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 21 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: Don't remember those two. I'm sure more than a few that do would rather they didn't. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosmicVillan Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 41 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: Sherwood is the worst manager we have ever employed. Dr Jozef Venglos says Hi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted October 9, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted October 9, 2018 5 minutes ago, Wainy316 said: And yet still give us our most enjoyable 3 months of the last 8 years. And our worst Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 3 minutes ago, Razor said: For a couple of months we really played some beautiful football, I remember saying to my mate 'we are actually playing like Barcelona!' and then Kammy said the same thing seconds after on Soccer Saturday. It went to pieces quite rapidly though and his team selections were bizarre. He lost the core of his squad and then clearly new nothing about the players that were signed for him in the summer. His tactical limitations would definitely have come to the fore eventually and there was alarm bells after the trio of Southampton, Burnley and Arsenal games. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 1 minute ago, Stevo985 said: And our worst Our worst, but only joint with Garde, Black and Lambert's last 3 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Raver50032 Posted October 9, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted October 9, 2018 Most seem to be getting caught up in some sort of romantic nourishment for a gamble on Henry and Terry. Some normally very sensible posters too, which is surprising given where we are at as a club. Some normally sensible posters rounding on 'One For The Road' for displaying some rightly deserved and asserted caution. It is a gamble... so Henry can talk a good game. This could all blow up in our faces. I'm not naïve enough to believe that ANY other potential appointment would be as equal, less or more of a risk. But as is no customary for Villa Talk, the 'I know better' circular debates and roundings continue to manifest. Proper popcorn time this last thirty pages. I remember the rounding that Grasshopper got for his interpretation of Steve Bruce and Steve Bruce's Aston Villa. He isn't around these parts any longer, and yet in the end, he was proven pretty much well justified and correct. I'm not saying that 'One For The Road' is fully correct, or even fully justified in his concerns about Henry/Terry. But why are so many of you engaging in a faux-circle jerk over what could end up being nothing more than a grandiloquent gamble? It's a big name with little substance, especially in the area where it matters for where we are as a club right now. I posted towards the end of MON's tenure that in the following ten years, there would be more chance of us playing in League 1, than the Champions League. And so it has panned out, much to my chagrin. The nature of the 2018-19 Championship is such that given our properly dismal start (performances and 'on paper' results considering the stature of the oppo) to the season, it's a fine line between chasing the play-offs/early league leaders and us descending into a fully blown relegation scrap. So many are now blinded by taking a significant risk, just to 'try something different' or set sail in a 'new direction.' Come on folks, this is Aston Villa (more like Aston Vanilla actually, always getting licked). If it is Henry/Terry, and it works, then fine, I'll join in the celebratory sausage joculation. But let me register my concerns here for posterity... my uncertainty... my doubt and anxiety. I don't think we can afford to take such an audacious gamble. Is this really the 'statement' that the owners would want to make? There is so much at stake here this season. The only real positive from this appointment would be that neither Sol or Dwight would need to write to the FA. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan-scott Posted October 9, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted October 9, 2018 47 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: Sherwood is the worst manager we have ever employed. Ohhhh is that what he was? A manager! I did often wonder what that plank was meant to be doing. Certainly wasn’t ‘managing’. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosmicVillan Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 12 minutes ago, One For The Road said: Its not the time for a wild experiment. I would argue it is. It's almost like a free hit now...enough of the season left if it's a success and if it doesn't work out then look to rebuild again in the Summer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted October 9, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted October 9, 2018 (edited) Back to Henry. Listening to the Football Ramble today, they had James Horncastle and Andy Brassel on who are two very good European football reporters/pundits. As in they actually know what they are talking about, not just a Merson and the boys type pundit. Anyway, they gave a small insight into Henry. They said that when martinez was appointed the Belgian players were incredibly underwhelmed. And that Thierry Henry's addition very much placated a lot of them. They also said the squad love him and that he has had a very positive effect on their strikers. There are some very positive quotes from Lukaku about Henry (yeah yeah he WOULD say that because Henry is his coach, but still) He was originally brought in as second assistant (effectively a striker coach) and has since been promoted to Martinez' assistant. It was only brief, and none of that means he'll make a good manager. They enforced that point themselves that the key is how he handles the job. But it did sound pretty positive from people who actually have a bit of insight into the issue. Edited October 9, 2018 by Stevo985 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 Harry has just said on Talksport that he's heard Henry won't be happening.Thinks Terry more likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilko154 Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 Just now, Stevo985 said: Back to Henry. Listening to the Football Ramble today, they had James Horncastle and Andy Brassel on who are two very good European football reporters/pundits. As in they actually know what they are talking about, not just a Merson and the boys type pundit. Anyway, they gave a small insight into Henry. They said that when martinez was appointed the Belgian players were incredibly underwhelmed. And that Thierry Henry's addition very much placated a lot of them. They also said the squad love him and that he has had a very positive effect on their strikers. He was originally brought in as second assistant (effectively a striker coach) and has since been promoted to Martinez' assistant. It was only brief, and none of that means he'll make a good manager. They enforced that point themselves that the key is how he handles the job. But it did sound pretty positive from people who actually have a bit of insight into the issue. Goods to hear the effect he has had on the strikers. I was getting worried that some of our fans are going overboard on the fact that Abraham, Kodjia and Hogan are about to become the greatest strikers in the world with two weeks coaching from Henry. As a coach the above sounds pretty encouraging, but as we all know the step up to management is pretty big and the role will be completely different to coaching an international team for a couple of weeks a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craigy1874 Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 Harry Redknapp on Talksport just said he understands Henry wont take the Villa job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted October 9, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted October 9, 2018 1 minute ago, wilko154 said: Goods to hear the effect he has had on the strikers. I was getting worried that some of our fans are going overboard on the fact that Abraham, Kodjia and Hogan are about to become the greatest strikers in the world with two weeks coaching from Henry. As a coach the above sounds pretty encouraging, but as we all know the step up to management is pretty big and the role will be completely different to coaching an international team for a couple of weeks a year. Yep, and like I said they specifically mentioned that. They said whilst the signs are positive we (they) don't know exactly what he does with the Belgian team. As in how much responsibility he does or doesn't have and how much influence he has. So whilst the signs are positive, obviously the step into being the actual manager is the key, so it's still a risk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeyAnty Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 If Henry is new manager is he wise to take Terry as an assistant? Big presence as an assistant manager especially when its your first managerial job. Henry would need to be careful it doesnt unintentionally undermine his role. Also a big NO to me for Bobby Bluffer as Everton fans all call him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 3 minutes ago, John said: Harry has just said on Talksport that he's heard Henry won't be happening.Thinks Terry more likely. But, but, he hasn't got his coaching badges !!!!!! Terry makes more sense (in terms of probability) - He's quit as a player, knows most of the current players and is generally liked by the fans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 3 minutes ago, HeyAnty said: If Henry is new manager is he wise to take Terry as an assistant? Big presence as an assistant manager especially when its your first managerial job. Henry would need to be careful it doesnt unintentionally undermine his role. Also a big NO to me for Bobby Bluffer as Everton fans all call him. Like I said yesterday - Terry would have everything to loose coming in as no 2 to Henry - should it fail Terry would be slightly tainted - if its a success Henry gets all the credit and JT still hasn't got the managers job he wanted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NurembergVillan Posted October 9, 2018 Moderator Share Posted October 9, 2018 5 minutes ago, Craigy1874 said: Harry Redknapp on Talksport just said he understands Henry wont take the Villa job 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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