Stevo985 Posted August 24, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted August 24, 2017 1 hour ago, NurembergVillan said: All due respect to the Dr, but he needs to leave the football to the people he hired to do it. To be fair, he pretty much is. Yeah he's expressed his opinion on it which I'm not sure I'm comfortable with. But there are plenty of charimen who, if they felt that way about a signing, would step in and make sure it didn't happen. Dr X does seem to be letting the "football men" do their job, albeit begrudgingly in this case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 23 minutes ago, lapal_fan said: This is fake. ......the hat is the give away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted August 24, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted August 24, 2017 Hmmm... I'm unsure on this one. I just don't think we need him. Our squad is already so strong. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrjc Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 7 minutes ago, PieFacE said: Hmmm... I'm unsure on this one. I just don't think we need him. Our squad is already so strong. Agree with this, especially given the additional wage cost (and potential loan fee) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Willard Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 (edited) Yes he is quality for this league played in the right position. I think people are unsure because we seem to ignoring our left side. LB/ LM cover Edited August 24, 2017 by Lord Willard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 The Snodgrass I remember, can unlock defences.......that would suggest good signing to me. However, I am cautiously nervous of pushing the kids back, because this batch IMO need game time and encouragement. I don't really understand the science behind the management of the kids , so I will bow graciously to the better knowledge of the coaches. I would have them in much more than we do.....but I guess that is not so prudent as it sounds. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted August 24, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted August 24, 2017 "we don't need him" is probably accurate. But that doesn't mean it'll be a bad signing. I think we're so used to not having any depth that we forget how good having options are! If Adomah and green start and aren't quite cutting it in a game, how amazing would it be to have Elmohamady and Snodgrass to try off the bench? Seeing as our main struggle has been putting the round thing in the big rectangle thing, more options going forward can only be a good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrjc Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 2 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: "we don't need him" is probably accurate. But that doesn't mean it'll be a bad signing. I think we're so used to not having any depth that we forget how good having options are! If Adomah and green start and aren't quite cutting it in a game, how amazing would it be to have Elmohamady and Snodgrass to try off the bench? Seeing as our main struggle has been putting the round thing in the big rectangle thing, more options going forward can only be a good thing. Surely not at any price though? I do see what you mean, ideally, but we (probably literally) can't afford to keep paying PL (or even close to PL) wages Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkLillis Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 (edited) This guy can play. He is not brilliant of course and West Ham have a lot of good players who they can use instead of him. Villa on the other hand have few better than him. so on that basis Robert.... you're hired! Edited August 25, 2017 by MarkLillis 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 32 minutes ago, PieFacE said: Hmmm... I'm unsure on this one. I just don't think we need him. Our squad is already so strong. Cardiff and Reading really struggled against our strong squad... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted August 24, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted August 24, 2017 Just now, Delphinho123 said: Cardiff and Reading really struggled against our strong squad... Players don't fix terrible tactics. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted August 24, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted August 24, 2017 23 minutes ago, mrjc said: Surely not at any price though? I do see what you mean, ideally, but we (probably literally) can't afford to keep paying PL (or even close to PL) wages Well yes. but I was making the assumption that he's within our budget if we're signing him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaffmaster Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 No harm in having quality cover in high energy positions considering the density of the fixture list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 32 minutes ago, PieFacE said: Players don't fix terrible tactics. Yes, let's blame tactics on our lack of decent creative/attacking midfielders. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 9 minutes ago, Delphinho123 said: Yes, let's blame tactics on our lack of decent creative/attacking midfielders. ditto I see stuff from our players.....poor stuff and sublime stuff, like Hogans second goal or some of the passes from O'Hare or Richie de laet's wicked cross. I think what has that got to do with tactics......its just well executed technical play. Tactics has a part to play in football,sure, but every mortal event is not related to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted August 24, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted August 24, 2017 13 minutes ago, Delphinho123 said: Yes, let's blame tactics on our lack of decent creative/attacking midfielders. Yes. I will blame constantly hoofing the ball to Hogan on tactics and lack of match preparation. Did the Cardiff or Reading squads consist better players than ours? No. Did they perform better as a team? Yes. Of course it's down to tactics and match prep. I don't see how having Snodgrass on the pitch would have changed either result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 why always default to tactics, why not consider other options of thought. How do you know the player hoofing it is just trying to avoid getting caught with it and is not feeling that confident on the ball? How do you know the preparation has been fine......but the player is reacting to his instincts? How do you know the players, playing for the respective teams you mentioned just imposed their game on us and won their individual encounters.....which consequently negated our plans? Maybe Snodgrass playing would not have changed the result.....or maybe it would? My point is Tactics alone cannot be defaulted to every time we have a reversal......just as equally, it cannot be claimed when we get an emphatic win. Many,many factors come in to play to create a result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post PieFacE Posted August 24, 2017 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted August 24, 2017 (edited) 9 minutes ago, TRO said: why always default to tactics, why not consider other options of thought. How do you know the player hoofing it is just trying to avoid getting caught with it and is not feeling that confident on the ball? How do you know the preparation has been fine......but the player is reacting to his instincts? How do you know the players, playing for the respective teams you mentioned just imposed their game on us and won their individual encounters.....which consequently negated our plans? Maybe Snodgrass playing would not have changed the result.....or maybe it would? My point is Tactics alone cannot be defaulted to every time we have a reversal......just as equally, it cannot be claimed when we get an emphatic win. Many,many factors come in to play to create a result. Because the way we let Reading have the ball and applied no pressure at all can only come down to tactics. You can't shout at players to press and accept it when they don't. I think it's far more likely they are doing what they are being instructed to do. They're professional footballers not children. If after 30 odd games Bruce can't get his team playing to the same levels as other teams who have managers in for shorter periods of time then surely you have to start questioning the manager? Yes. Snodgrass being on the pitch may have done something differently, but it would have been some solo effort from miles away or a free kick or something like that. The overall performance of the team would have still been poor IMO. If you genuinely believe we haven't got one of strongest teams in this league and we need more "quality" additions to go up then fair enough. But I couldn't disagree more. I certainly don't take defeat to Reading and Cardiff as a sign we need better players, I take it as a sign we need better management of our players. Edited August 24, 2017 by PieFacE 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerCollins29 Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 If only for his set pieces he will be an asset. He might give McCormack a lift being a fellow scot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMelvillan Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 To me Snodgrass has always had the look and demeanor of a man waking up after a massive bender (insert Kenneth Williams gif here). For that reason I think he will fit in just fine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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