KentVillan Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 11 minutes ago, PussEKatt said: According to a docco that I watched a Russian is the secetary General of either NATO or the UN and according to this documentary the SG has been veto Ukrain joining NATO for ages No 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PussEKatt Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 Yes,it was on Four corners.I think you get that in England as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted March 4, 2022 Moderator Share Posted March 4, 2022 Just now, PussEKatt said: Yes,it was on Four corners.I think you get that in England as well Whatever it is you were watching was wrong, totally wrong Ukraine wants to join NATO, it was years and possibly decades away from being able to do this and even then, there was no guarantee they'd be allowed The UN has no power of veto over who joins NATO, nor does Russia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cizzler Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 13 minutes ago, PussEKatt said: According to a docco that I watched a Russian is the secetary General of either NATO or the UN and according to this documentary the SG has been veto Ukrain joining NATO for ages Not sure what you watched - but the UN have no power to veto NATO members. There are no Russians in NATO. It's a defensive alliance of the US, Canada + most of Western (and now Eastern...) Europe. It's head is Jens Stoltenberg and he's Norweigan. The prior head was Danish I think. The UN Secretary General is Portguese, Antonio Gutteres. Russia are on the Security Council of the UN (along with the UK, USA, China and France aka the original nuclear powers) - this gives them the right to veto legislation proposed in the UN. However, NATO is a completely independent organisation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PussEKatt Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 Well,I cant find what I am on about but will keep trying.If I find it I will post it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 2 hours ago, Mr_Dogg said: There are innocent Russian civilians who will suffer economic hardship. I don't think any of them will have missiles dropped on them. Unless they live in Donbass, of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKP90 Posted March 4, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted March 4, 2022 3 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: Unless they live in Donbass, of course. In football we call that an own goal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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HKP90 Posted March 4, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted March 4, 2022 4 minutes ago, mjmooney said: Of course the same could be said about those who spend hours on a certain forum (not mentioning any names) but have never been involved with the running of a Premier League football club. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 Quote Premier League: China's rights holder will not show games over Ukraine support Chinese rights holders have told the Premier League they will not broadcast English top-flight matches this weekend because of the league's planned shows of support for Ukraine, the BBC has learnt. China is a close political ally of Russia, which has invaded Ukraine. The Premier League has said it "wholeheartedly rejects Russia's actions" and is set to show solidarity with Ukraine. https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/60524865 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKP90 Posted March 4, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted March 4, 2022 Just now, sne said: https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/60524865 This could all be about visibility of the conflict in China, rather than any actual political support, though. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 12 minutes ago, mjmooney said: Is the alternative to this - that people know nothing about current affairs and have no interest in learning - actually better? Doesn't seem like it to me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKP90 Posted March 4, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted March 4, 2022 2 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: Is the alternative to this - that people know nothing about current affairs and have no interest in learning - actually better? Doesn't seem like it to me. Seems natural to me that we try to make sense of something that threatens all our lives and liberties. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awol Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 1 hour ago, nick76 said: I get it! You’ve demonstrated - in detail - that you don’t, but let’s leave it there. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted March 4, 2022 Moderator Share Posted March 4, 2022 15 minutes ago, sne said: https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/60524865 I wouldn't read too much into it. The Chinese agenda will be as much to do with internal strife and not showing any form of political demonstration as it will be to do with supporting Russia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKP90 Posted March 4, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted March 4, 2022 2 minutes ago, bickster said: I wouldn't read too much into it. The Chinese agenda will be as much to do with internal strife and not showing any form of political demonstration as it will be to do with supporting Russia My thoughts exactly. They just want status quo, and always have. [insert meme gif here] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Dogg Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 39 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: Unless they live in Donbass, of course. Do you have some examples of this? Ukraine forces bombing civilians that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 There is a fairly realistic probability that a hot war with Russia would not actually result in nuclear war. The logic of M.A.D. is supposed to prevent either side from actually pushing the button. It’s tempting to call Putin’s bluff, though I understand why we don’t. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKP90 Posted March 4, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted March 4, 2022 2 minutes ago, Mr_Dogg said: Do you have some examples of this? Ukraine forces bombing civilians that is. Did he mention Ukrainian forces? I didn't read it like that. I read it as bombs dropped on civilians, some of whom are Russian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Dogg Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, HKP90 said: Did he mention Ukrainian forces? I didn't read it like that. I read it as bombs dropped on civilians, some of whom are Russian. Well they could be from anywhere then. Are Russian civilians being indiscriminately bombed by Ukraine? No. Edited March 4, 2022 by Mr_Dogg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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