sheepyvillian Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 12 hours ago, Talldarkandransome said: The fact Ratcliffe wants this clown (if rumours are true) kind of proves that he knows nothing about football... I think he needs to leave that to Brailsford, he transformed British cycling and knows what sporting success is... On the other hand, I sincerely hope they employ Southgate, I can think of no better match Cycing success doesn't necessarily translate to footballing success. I remember Clive Woodward taking his coaching ability into the field of football and that didn't work out too well. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 Well there's no way Ratcliffe would 'come out and say he wants him', whether it is true that he does or not. Clubs (or ones not run by complete idiots anyway) don't issue press releases about who they hope their next manager will be while the current one is in place. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 (edited) edit - and of course he takes the utd job, it would be an even bigger blag than him getting the england job Edited March 20 by villa4europe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewiek2 Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 Maguire, Mason Mount, Rashford, Shaw. What's not to like for Gareth? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 Popcorn worthy if Southgate really takes over next season, he'll last about four months but it will be hilarious with Maguire as captain and Mount ahead of the benched (or sold) Bruno Fernandes. Guess Ratcliffe's logic is he coaches half of them for England already but he'd be even more out of his depth leading Man. United than Moyes was. Hope it happens. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 I just hope he f***s off after the Euros. Don't give 2 hoots were he goes next, as long as it's not our club. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewiek2 Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 18 hours ago, VillaChris said: Popcorn worthy if Southgate really takes over next season, he'll last about four months but it will be hilarious with Maguire as captain and Mount ahead of the benched (or sold) Bruno Fernandes. Guess Ratcliffe's logic is he coaches half of them for England already but he'd be even more out of his depth leading Man. United than Moyes was. Hope it happens. Being England coach means that really l, despite what the media will say, he only gets scrutinised in this country. Man United is a global behemoth, he'd be under the spotlight literally everywhere in the world from the moment he agreed. He'd much better off sodding off back to Boro and never to be heard of on the national or global stage ever again. He lives up that way anyway. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan95 Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 Flatters to deceive, nicks results but ultimately fails. Him and Man Utd are a perfect match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightoffyour Posted March 21 VT Supporter Share Posted March 21 1 hour ago, stewiek2 said: Being England coach means that really l, despite what the media will say, he only gets scrutinised in this country. Man United is a global behemoth, he'd be under the spotlight literally everywhere in the world from the moment he agreed. He'd much better off sodding off back to Boro and never to be heard of on the national or global stage ever again. He lives up that way anyway. He lives near Middlesbrough by choice? Says it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmygreaves Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 (edited) What's Southgate's record against the good teams in world football. Anyone with rudementry football knowledge managing the players England have should be able to beat the vast majority of teams in world football. It counts when you're up against the top 10 sides. I'm not sure we've beaten anybody of note with Southgate on charge. Edit.... Just found this... Southgate's record against sides currently ranked in FIFA's top 10 is as follows: 27 games, seven wins, nine draws, 11 losses equating to a win rate of just 26%. Edited March 21 by jimmygreaves 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 35 minutes ago, jimmygreaves said: What's Southgate's record against the good teams in world football. Anyone with rudementry football knowledge managing the players England have should be able to beat the vast majority of teams in world football. It counts when you're up against the top 10 sides. I'm not sure we've beaten anybody of note with Southgate on charge. Edit.... Just found this... Southgate's record against sides currently ranked in FIFA's top 10 is as follows: 27 games, seven wins, nine draws, 11 losses equating to a win rate of just 26%. That's really woeful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingman Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 On 20/03/2024 at 13:22, stewiek2 said: Maguire, Mason Mount, Rashford, Shaw. What's not to like for Gareth? He's already enquired about Henderson and Philips 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted March 21 VT Supporter Share Posted March 21 On 20/03/2024 at 08:00, bobzy said: Do you think Southgate takes the Man Utd job if it came up? He'd be insane not to.* He'd earn ten times more than England will be paying him and his inevitable severance pay will be eye watering. * But not as insane as United would be to employ him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewiek2 Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 13 minutes ago, Kingman said: He's already enquired about Henderson and Philips He's ditching Onana for T-Rex arms 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingman Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 On 20/03/2024 at 08:00, bobzy said: Do you think Southgate takes the Man Utd job if it came up? I think he would bottle it, He can't get a tune out the best 30 players in the county so what's he going to do with United's squad? He knows full well he's nowhere near a Top 4/6 manager and would be found out and exposed on the biggest platform in world football then on the dole for Christmas He'll end up in Saudi for silly money in a relegation battle with Gerrard Thats about his level 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 5 minutes ago, Kingman said: I think he would bottle it, He can't get a tune out the best 30 players in the county so what's he going to do with United's squad? He knows full well he's nowhere near a Top 4/6 manager and would be found out and exposed on the biggest platform in world football then on the dole for Christmas He'll end up in Saudi for silly money in a relegation battle with Gerrard Thats about his level I agree with the first bit but think that's why he would take it Southgate isn't good enough to be turning utd down and football never works that managers or players turn down opportunities they shouldn't be getting They would be mad to offer it and he would be mad to say no 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingman Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 3 minutes ago, villa4europe said: I agree with the first bit but think that's why he would take it Southgate isn't good enough to be turning utd down and football never works that managers or players turn down opportunities they shouldn't be getting They would be mad to offer it and he would be mad to say no For me he has to big of an ego to fail spectacularly and thats what will happen Everyone will be predicting it and it so would only be a matter of time For this reason he won't except it IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 1 hour ago, Kingman said: For me he has to big of an ego to fail spectacularly and thats what will happen Everyone will be predicting it and it so would only be a matter of time For this reason he won't except it IMO. But surely if he has that big an ego he won't consider the potential of failure?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wurzel Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 Southgate for Man Utd? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingman Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 4 hours ago, villa4europe said: But surely if he has that big an ego he won't consider the potential of failure?! Well he's used to making excuses so would be a good fit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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