Zatman Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 1 minute ago, Jareth said: Fortunately we have Green, Adomah, Elmo and a fit Gabby. a terrifying attacking quartet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted July 20, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted July 20, 2017 3 minutes ago, Zatman said: a terrifying attacking quartet Well other than an obvious question mark over Gabby, it's decent. Hard to feel that when you're entirely convinced we're sh*te. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 Just now, Jareth said: Well other than an obvious question mark over Gabby, it's decent. Hard to feel that when you're entirely convinced we're sh*te. I dont think we are shite. I think the management team is. big difference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted July 20, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted July 20, 2017 Just now, Zatman said: I dont think we are shite. I think the management team is. big difference And you have given them what? Not even a single whole season? That's some prophecy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 Just now, Jareth said: And you have given them what? Not even a single whole season? That's some prophecy. 36 games is pretty much a whole season. He had more games than the 3 previous managers at a lower level and has been shit. Sherwood got 10 wins in 28 in Premier League, Bruce has 15 in 36 in the Championship. He has been crap and a failure 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted July 20, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted July 20, 2017 9 minutes ago, Zatman said: 36 games is pretty much a whole season. He had more games than the 3 previous managers at a lower level and has been shit. Sherwood got 10 wins in 28 in Premier League, Bruce has 15 in 36 in the Championship. He has been crap and a failure Sherwood got a summer window, with funds. Reckon Bruce should get at least that before the bedsheet gets dusted off. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 1 hour ago, DaveAV1 said: This is a very important quality and one which I believe has been totally lacking for a good while. Obviously in midfield it is very important but also in all areas of the pitch. I think you could make a claim for Kodjia having some dynamic qualities but generally the team are a pretty placid bunch. If Whelan can bring this to the team and encourage it in others, then he could make a huge difference. However a cautionary note, we now have a squad full of players who should have been bringing many qualities to the team and up to this point, on the whole, they haven't delivered. So let's hope that we don't manage to eradicate the dynamism out of Whelan, as quickly as we mislaid the various qualities that most of the rest of the squad had before they joined us. Dave, I take your point, but i have seen similar situations in the past, when in a rebuild era, players come in and very little happens, then wham, that one player seems to light the touch paper, thats why i put so much emphasis on balance. I am hoping/expecting GW is that man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 Its interesting how all these seasoned Pros' , who have played for accomplished managers, feel so comfortable signing for Steve Bruce....if he was so bad as some paint, would they come here. nah! I have heard no adverse from anyone in the industry.....even the Blues fans who will pick on anything are quiet when i talk of Steve Bruce....wished we still had him is the utterings. It will be interesting to here from the Naysayers, when we tear it up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted July 20, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted July 20, 2017 I'll be on the Bruce OUT fence right away if he doesn't use this squad that he has now put together properly. But I don't see it. He's got a formula, and this window is what he is all about. Expect a good season all y'all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashingqwerty Posted July 20, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted July 20, 2017 I recently rewatched bruces first game in charge and our last game of the season. If anything we have gotten worse as a team not better. I fear for the future of this club... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevonIsAPlaceOnEarth Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 Proof will be in the pudding with results. It really is interesting to hear the players all say they've never worked harder on fitness in preseason. Although that does seem to be the party line for all clubs now. As others above have said, I can see us starting very strongly. If we do start strongly and get confidence, I think we will storm this league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted July 21, 2017 Author Share Posted July 21, 2017 8 hours ago, villa89 said: You're concerned now, wait until you see Jedinak and whelan in midfield in front of Terry and samba. *shudder* Can't see us playing both together unless it's to see out a game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave J Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 7 hours ago, TRO said: Dave, I take your point, but i have seen similar situations in the past, when in a rebuild era, players come in and very little happens, then wham, that one player seems to light the touch paper, thats why i put so much emphasis on balance. I am hoping/expecting GW is that man. Think your going to have a long wait TRO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 7 hours ago, TRO said: Its interesting how all these seasoned Pros' , who have played for accomplished managers, feel so comfortable signing for Steve Bruce....if he was so bad as some paint, would they come here. nah! ££££££££££££££ 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted July 21, 2017 Moderator Share Posted July 21, 2017 7 hours ago, DevonIsAPlaceOnEarth said: Proof will be in the pudding with results. It really is interesting to hear the players all say they've never worked harder on fitness in preseason. Although that does seem to be the party line for all clubs now. As others above have said, I can see us starting very strongly. If we do start strongly and get confidence, I think we will storm this league. Meaningless. Players say this and then if and when the manager gets the chop the new one comes in and says the players aren't fit enough, buying themselves more time if the results don't improve. I'd say about 90% of what players and managers say should be ignored. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted July 21, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted July 21, 2017 (edited) 8 hours ago, flashingqwerty said: I recently rewatched bruces first game in charge and our last game of the season. If anything we have gotten worse as a team not better. I fear for the future of this club... Really? I'm not sure I believe you. His first game was vs Wolves which, despite the point, was a pretty dreadful performance. We were as overrun as we had been all season. Our last game was Brighton at home which was actually a really good performance. It was certainly one of our better performances of the season. Your final sentence is fine. I'm comfortable with people thinking that. It's certainly a concern. I just can't believe you've come to that conclusion based on the Wolves game and the Brighton game. That doesn't make sense. Edited July 21, 2017 by Stevo985 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted July 21, 2017 Moderator Share Posted July 21, 2017 8 hours ago, flashingqwerty said: I recently rewatched bruces first game in charge and our last game of the season. If anything we have gotten worse as a team not better. I fear for the future of this club... Is my memory going or was the Villa v Brighton game not televised? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted July 21, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted July 21, 2017 35 minutes ago, TrentVilla said: Is my memory going or was the Villa v Brighton game not televised? It wasn't. There's another reason I don't quite believe that statement. He must have had one of @bobzy's secret streams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted July 21, 2017 Author Share Posted July 21, 2017 2 hours ago, Stevo985 said: Really? I'm not sure I believe you. His first game was vs Wolves which, despite the point, was a pretty dreadful performance. We were as overrun as we had been all season. Our last game was Brighton at home which was actually a really good performance. It was certainly one of our better performances of the season. Your final sentence is fine. I'm comfortable with people thinking that. It's certainly a concern. I just can't believe you've come to that conclusion based on the Wolves game and the Brighton game. That doesn't make sense. If you watch both Brighton games Stevo has a point, we completely matched them and Brighton in my opinion were the bets side in the league. If we can sort the away form out I am confident we are going up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted July 21, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted July 21, 2017 24 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: If you watch both Brighton games Stevo has a point, we completely matched them and Brighton in my opinion were the bets side in the league. If we can sort the away form out I am confident we are going up Obviously you can't cherry pick games, but I thought the Brighton game at VP was pretty much as good as the away fixture. I do think the OP has a point. I just don't think you can come to that conclusion based on the Wolves game at VP vs the Brighton game at VP. For me the latter was by FAR a better performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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