Zatman Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 2 hours ago, Mic09 said: He wasn't, it was a header that bounced of the floor from a corner. It was a good goal that you don't expect to save, if you do it's a brilliant one. But Germany hammered Poland. 26 shots, I think 11 on target. All they need is a no.9. But the side plays good football, if a little suspect at the back. I don't know it would be disappointing for me if Emi conceded that. Be uproar on here if Olsen did Was an enjoyable game I thought Poland looked dangerous too in the first half. Szczesny save from Thiaw i thought was top class Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 Disaster of a result for Wales. Page went gung ho and it backfired big time, we have really poor defenders so leaving them exposed with only Ampadu helping out was not a good decision, in hindsight. That Armenia decided to score some absolute belters didn’t help either but we’re definitely witnessing the start of a massive decline in Wales’ fortunes again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 14 minutes ago, bannedfromHandV said: Disaster of a result for Wales. Page went gung ho and it backfired big time, we have really poor defenders so leaving them exposed with only Ampadu helping out was not a good decision, in hindsight. That Armenia decided to score some absolute belters didn’t help either but we’re definitely witnessing the start of a massive decline in Wales’ fortunes again. Not sure what the shock is. Bale getting wonder goals out of little changed the trajectory of so many games in last decade and for a nation with a small group of top level players you simply are always going to go into transition until new stars emerge. No idea why Ramsey become new captain, he should've been jettisoned off aswell as he's been phoning it in for club and country since 2020 imo. Giving Page a new 4 year deal wasn't a great move either but ultimately it would be a very difficult job for anyone if the expectation is for Wales to keep qualifying for tournaments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 1 hour ago, VillaChris said: Not sure what the shock is. Bale getting wonder goals out of little changed the trajectory of so many games in last decade and for a nation with a small group of top level players you simply are always going to go into transition until new stars emerge. No idea why Ramsey become new captain, he should've been jettisoned off aswell as he's been phoning it in for club and country since 2020 imo. Giving Page a new 4 year deal wasn't a great move either but ultimately it would be a very difficult job for anyone if the expectation is for Wales to keep qualifying for tournaments. Agree it is inevitable after the golden generation but to lose 4-2 at home to Armenia is a return to the dark old days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhioVilla Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 To he fair, Lucas Zelarayan is a truly great footballer when he is on his game. Also, the US rehiring Berholter is just asking for more disappointment, IMO. We don't have enough ambition. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 26 minutes ago, OhioVilla said: To he fair, Lucas Zelarayan is a truly great footballer when he is on his game. Also, the US rehiring Berholter is just asking for more disappointment, IMO. We don't have enough ambition. I think they were sort of forced into rehiring Berhalter after the mess from the World Cup and that he was cleared from the Reynas allegations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rev Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 2 hours ago, bannedfromHandV said: Disaster of a result for Wales. Page went gung ho and it backfired big time, we have really poor defenders so leaving them exposed with only Ampadu helping out was not a good decision, in hindsight. That Armenia decided to score some absolute belters didn’t help either but we’re definitely witnessing the start of a massive decline in Wales’ fortunes again. From what I saw of the game Wales were gash. The first Wales goal shouldn’t have counted as they won the ball back with a tactical foul, but the main crime was just how much time and space Armenia were afforded in the final third. Give international footballers that much time and space when they are in shooting range and you’re gonna get punished. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 1 hour ago, The_Rev said: From what I saw of the game Wales were gash. The first Wales goal shouldn’t have counted as they won the ball back with a tactical foul, but the main crime was just how much time and space Armenia were afforded in the final third. Give international footballers that much time and space when they are in shooting range and you’re gonna get punished. Having watched the highlights, Armenia's second goal is like a disasterclass in how not to defend, a largely unthreatening turnover with lots of defenders back that somehow led to an unpressured cross to an unpressured header in the middle of the goal. I know a lot of the discussion around Wales' regression is going to focus on Bale's retirement, but commitment and defensive organisation doesn't depend on an attacking superstar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinebro Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 Nyland in goal McGinn will have a field day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Zen Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 1 hour ago, Pinebro said: Nyland in goal McGinn will have a field day I’m reaaaaaally struggling to find any sort of enthusiasm for this game, or any Norway game for that matter. Internationals bore the crap out of me most of the time. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 1 hour ago, HanoiVillan said: Having watched the highlights, Armenia's second goal is like a disasterclass in how not to defend, a largely unthreatening turnover with lots of defenders back that somehow led to an unpressured cross to an unpressured header in the middle of the goal. I know a lot of the discussion around Wales' regression is going to focus on Bale's retirement, but commitment and defensive organisation doesn't depend on an attacking superstar. Plenty of their defenders have had poor seasons, Mepham just benchwarming for Bournemouth and Rodon not played much at all in France past January. Ward in goal says it all. Think for Turkey away they need to go back 3 and have Davies and Amapdu in there and bring in Morrell but that sums up Wales, bring in a Portsmouth CM to try to shack Chanaloglu who's just started a CL final. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinebro Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 55 minutes ago, El Zen said: I’m reaaaaaally struggling to find any sort of enthusiasm for this game, or any Norway game for that matter. Internationals bore the crap out of me most of the time. Game has been a snoozefest tbf 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 Probably ignorance but I never realised McPhee was still working with Scotland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlobalVillan Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 I go to everyone world cup and Euros to follow England and watch a few other random games, but only because I love travelling. Those tournaments aside, international football is about as appealing to watch as women's football for me. Which absolutely not worth watching for even 2 minutes as far as I'm concerned. The last time I watched a non tournament International on TV, such as a qualifier or a friendly was probably in the 90's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, GlobalVillan said: I go to everyone world cup and Euros to follow England and watch a few other random games, but only because I love travelling. Those tournaments aside, international football is about as appealing to watch as women's football for me. Which absolutely not worth watching for even 2 minutes as far as I'm concerned. The last time I watched a non tournament International on TV, such as a qualifier or a friendly was probably in the 90's. Was just thinking to myself, it can be quite boring and shite can't it? Bar the big tournaments. Even the England game yesterday I was half asleep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAuthority Posted June 17, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted June 17, 2023 This game just woke up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinebro Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 2 shots 2 goals Classic Nyland performance 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlobalVillan Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 3 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: Was just thinking to myself, it can be quite boring and shite can't it? Bar the big tournaments. Even the England game yesterday I was half asleep. Didn't even know England played yesterday! I just saw Scotland were playing Norway and thought I'd see what was happening in this thread. Edit: Just checked and we played Malta in a pointless kickanout. Surely nobody turned their TV on and spent 2 hours of their life watching that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinebro Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 Haaland really should picked England Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAuthority Posted June 17, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted June 17, 2023 1 minute ago, Pinebro said: Haaland really should picked England Southgate would still play Kane only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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