colhint Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 Well they did in the UK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted August 30, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted August 30, 2019 34 minutes ago, colhint said: Well they did in the UK. Eh? I don't think the UK political parties had a lot of say in German Reichstag elections! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colhint Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 No you are correct but in fighting the Nazis they did Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enda Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 2 hours ago, chrisp65 said: He’s an MEP that’s got the role of EU representative for Brexit with special focus on EU citizens rights. Focus, in an official capacity, on EU citizens rights. Not China, not Hong Kong. He’s the leader of the fourth largest party in Parliament. He doesn’t speak for the Commission, or the Council, or even for the second largest group in the Parliament. He’s like the leader of the SNP. His views on Catalonia shouldn’t be lumped in as “the EU’s”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colhint Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 So what is doing talking about about brexit? As you say, Quote He doesn’t speak for the Commission, or the Council, or even for the second largest group in the Parliament. He’s like the leader of the SNP. His views on Catalonia shouldn’t be lumped in as “the EU’s”. Should his views on Brexit be ignored? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 3 hours ago, chrisp65 said: EU strangely protesting political prisoners in Hong Kong whilst ignoring Catalan prisoners in Spain. 3 hours ago, Enda said: Hate this nonsense. Guy Verhofstadt is not the EU. In the interest of accuracy. Guy Verhofstadt, the individual nominated by the EU to oversee Brexit, the guy who has personally vouched to look after the interests of EU citizens is tweeting about Hong Kong. He, not the EU, has also previously ridiculed Catalan separatists, whilst suggesting Scottish separatists face ‘no obstacle’ to leaving the UK and joining the EU. Obviously, as EU spokesperson on Brexit, any tweets on his certified account should be ignored. For clarity, he’s not personally ‘the EU’. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post peterms Posted August 31, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted August 31, 2019 Twitter really needs to sort out its security issues. There are too many cases of famous people having their account hacked so that people can post things designed to make them look like idiots. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted August 31, 2019 Moderator Share Posted August 31, 2019 1 hour ago, peterms said: Twitter really needs to sort out its security issues. There are too many cases of famous people having their account hacked so that people can post things designed to make them look like idiots. He should have joined VT, we'd have told him three years ago or more EDIT: Jebus, some of the people commenting (in favour of Brexit) on that post are absolutely beyond reason and they clearly think they are intelligent. My word there's some shocking logic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted August 31, 2019 Moderator Share Posted August 31, 2019 I see there was a serious disturbance in Glasgow last night as an Irish Unity march was attacked by counter protesters. Just a small hint of things to come 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Small thread 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seat68 Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Hold on didn't we have a poster on here saying it was a trouble free 5 minute thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 1 minute ago, Seat68 said: Hold on didn't we have a poster on here saying it was a trouble free 5 minute thing? To be fair I think what he was saying, was its probably trouble free, if you’re a middle aged white bloke that was born here that’s not paying too much attention. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 52 minutes ago, bickster said: I see there was a serious disturbance in Glasgow last night as an Irish Unity march was attacked by counter protesters. Just a small hint of things to come You’ll be blaming the 12th July on Brexit next Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted August 31, 2019 Moderator Share Posted August 31, 2019 36 minutes ago, tonyh29 said: You’ll be blaming the 12th July on Brexit next I think you need to look up the definition blame tbh Tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterms Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 1 hour ago, bickster said: He should have joined VT, we'd have told him three years ago or more He'll join when he's good and ready - you must appreciate he operates on a just-in-time basis. And he holds all the cards. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
limpid Posted August 31, 2019 Administrator Share Posted August 31, 2019 15 hours ago, colhint said: So what is doing talking about about brexit? As you say, Should his views on Brexit be ignored? This kind of thinking is why we have to have the "red ink" rule on VT. Some posters are unable to differentiate between a mod posting their personal opinion about things and posting as a mod. Baffling. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterms Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Fascinating. It seems the Tories becoming aware of how much of a useless arse Cummings is, without having the courage to move against him. I suppose that's their eternal condition Quote ...She said she had not had any direct contact with Hammond since she had started working for Javid in July and had only met one of his former aides socially a fortnight before. Cummings then asked to see her two mobile phones, one used for work and the other for private calls. He saw she had spoken to the same friend and ex-colleague a week previously and immediately told Khan she was fired. He then left the office in No 10 and summoned an armed policeman to march Khan out of Downing Street. As she was escorted out other advisers looked on in amazement. A former government insider said a culture of fear had taken hold: “What Cummings is up to makes me sick. It is appalling. Sonia was very shaken. His behaviour makes Fi and Nick [Fiona Hill and Nick Timothy who ran No 10 with iron fists before being fired by Theresa May after the 2017 general election debacle] look collegiate.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 (edited) On 30/08/2019 at 16:48, HanoiVillan said: 'If we make another assumption . . . then it probably makes more sense'. This is not solid evidence. Does he claim his assumption is 'solid evidence'? In that middle section of his thread, he says that there are numerous possible explanations (including: all the accounts are authentic, the numbers are logical, many of the MAGA accounts are inorganic trolls) and gives his opinion on the likelihood of each of them. On 30/08/2019 at 16:48, HanoiVillan said: ...that lots of these accounts were created in January 2017, hardly 'proves' anything. That's when Trump became President. Why would it be weird that lots of Trump fans signed up to Twitter around that time? Though he won the presidency two months before. Why was the actual election victory not as much oof a spur for 'lots of Trump fans' to sign up to twitter? Your skepticism on the whole subject of social media propaganda is fair enough when it's about a lack of clear and robust evidence in support of some of the claims. Unfortunately, however, it too often comes across as 'I'm never going to believe any of this and all of the people who even suggest that it's happening and that it may be having an effect on politics and elections around the world are the actual frauds' and it just looks like a stubborn clinging to your own assumptions. On 30/08/2019 at 21:25, blandy said: not just accepting what's written by someone with a particular position on Brexit How do you know what that bloke's 'particular position on Brexit' is? Edited September 1, 2019 by snowychap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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