peterms Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 2 hours ago, chrisp65 said: Interesting that even on that, there's not a single idea that gets 51% Why isn't Cameron having his arse kicked up and down the roads of Britain? That's an idea that would get well more than 51%. I would move an amendment to change it to "the roads of Britain and Europe". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 (edited) 11 minutes ago, peterms said: That's an idea that would get well more than 51%. I would move an amendment to change it to "the roads of Britain and Europe". "Britain, Europe, Syria and the rougher parts of Detroit" Edited March 31, 2019 by ml1dch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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HanoiVillan Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 3 hours ago, Dick said: Nah, Tories don't ever have to answer questions. Not on Grenfell, Islamophobia, deaths through their austerity, not anything. Labour? They have to answer for everything. The media allow them to play politics on easy mode. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VILLAMARV Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 58 minutes ago, peterms said: <br> I would say a few of the remaining 4 would sadly be arguable. Rejection of modernism and contempt for the weak are all around us. The Naomi Wolf list of ten signs of a closing society she had in The End of America: 1. Invoke a terrifying internal and external enemy 2. Create a gulag 3. Develop a thug caste 4. Set up an internal surveillance system 5. Harass citizens' groups 6. Engage in arbitrary detention and release 7. Target key individuals 8. Control the press 9. Dissent equals treason 10. Suspend the rule of law How many can you catch ....... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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HanoiVillan Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 Labour whips presumably currently playing the most frantic game of hide-and-seek to work out where Jared O'Mara is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mozzavfc Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 Labour confirms it WILL be backing Common Market 2.0 (from Mirror) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 10 minutes ago, Mozzavfc said: https://twitter.com/PippaCrerar/status/1112705412795641856?s=09 Labour confirms it WILL be backing Common Market 2.0 (from Mirror) I don't think that it as a plan is particularly viable in the long-term, but I think it's sensible politicking from Labour to back something different from last time. At least they can (just about) claim that they are looking to compromise on their original position. Although I guess it helps to be able to move to a position that the majority of their supporters would probably see as preferable to their current stance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted April 1, 2019 Author Moderator Share Posted April 1, 2019 1 hour ago, HanoiVillan said: Labour whips presumably currently playing the most frantic game of hide-and-seek to work out where Jared O'Mara is. I'd guess Caroline Lucas would vote differently this time. From No to Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted April 1, 2019 Moderator Share Posted April 1, 2019 Does CM 2.0 include Free Movement? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 6 minutes ago, blandy said: I'd guess Caroline Lucas would vote differently this time. From No to Yes. I think there's a bunch who would move to be honest. I was being facetious about it coming down to one vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 Parliament being told it will have to sit next week .. Unite ( parliamentary staff branch ) release a statement saying " If any members have had their leave cancelled due to last minute changes in the parliamentary calendar, that is wrong and they should get in touch with us." No Deal default on the 12th cause we can't find any security and catering staff at Westminster to allow the house to sit ? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 Top stuff this Steve, absolute champagne stuff The best option would just be to cancel democracy . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brommy Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 5 minutes ago, tonyh29 said: Parliament being told it will have to sit next week .. Unite ( parliamentary staff branch ) release a statement saying " If any members have had their leave cancelled due to last minute changes in the parliamentary calendar, that is wrong and they should get in touch with us." No Deal default on the 12th cause we can't find any security and catering staff at Westminster to allow the house to sit ? If I had to cancel a family holiday because previously approved leave had been cancelled, I would be seeking advice and suitable recompense. I assume contingent arrangements will be made to enable Westminster to function when required, although I question whether most MPs are capable of making their own sandwich in lieu of catering facilities. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ml1dch Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, bickster said: Does CM 2.0 include Free Movement? Pretty much. It's basically the Single Market with a bolt-on customs union (and a shit name). Those supporting it but are against freedom of movement (or trying to convince others who are) can make an argument that there is a freedom of movement brake, as Article 112 of the EEA Agreement allows it to be suspended "if serious economic, societal or environmental difficulties of a sectorial (sic) or regional nature liable to persist are arising". There's a similar emergency brake to stop the movement of capital as well (Tory MPs seem less ranty about that for some reason though). But given that a) the economy can't really function without cheap migrant labour anyway and b) pink-faced men not wanting to hear polish in a supermarket queue doesn't really meet the threshold above, nothing would actually change. But it doesn't take a huge leap of imagination to imagine Boris on the steps on Number Ten farting on about how through our unilateral emergency brake we have now taken back control of our borders, but this was never about closing our borders, blah blah blah. Edited April 1, 2019 by ml1dch 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desensitized43 Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 Really interested to see what the ERG and MPs like mine who rejected everything except a no deal do tonight. Abstain? Reject everything? They're not happy their option that was soundly rejected has been left off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 I'm really behind on things. Where are we today? What is happening? @StefanAVFC, do you still have a Polish girlfriend? Wondering what she thinks of Brexit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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