StefanAVFC Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 (edited) We are the 6th richest country in the world, in peace time and we're putting the army on standby and broadcasting public service announcements. What will they say? Don't book holidays? Stockpile food? Stockpile medicine? What the actual **** is going on Edited December 18, 2018 by StefanAVFC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted December 18, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted December 18, 2018 'No, really, we'll do it!' At the end of all this, some politicians should probably be fearful of legal repercussions of all this. They won't of course, but they should. No Deal is a criminal dereliction of duty. Then again this is a government that proudly put in place measures that lead to vast increases in the mortality of societies most vulnerable. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4 Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 3 hours ago, Stevo985 said: It's infuriating the amount of people spouting "JUST LEAVE" with absolutely no knowledge of what that entails and the knock on effects. i almost want us to "just leave" with a no -deal.... just so everyone can see the carnage, and 12 months later we end up back in the EU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 2 minutes ago, ender4 said: 12 months later we end up back in the EU That wouldn't happen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted December 18, 2018 Moderator Share Posted December 18, 2018 5 minutes ago, ender4 said: i almost want us to "just leave" with a no -deal.... just so everyone can see the carnage, and 12 months later we end up back in the EU. We'd eventually get back but nowhere near that timeframe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 28 minutes ago, peterms said: Yes they should. They also need to be seen to fall back on the second referendum only when other avenues have been exhausted. However, a faction within the PLP wants to jump to that position immediately Cool, well there's probably plenty of time to play the long game. No rush to start on plan A. Maybe pencil it in for some time next summer. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted December 18, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted December 18, 2018 The thread is sobering. This is not normal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 2 minutes ago, Chindie said: The thread is sobering. This is not normal. This is the real 'Project Fear'. We're not going to have the Meaningful Vote until panicked constituents are calling their MP's, begging their representatives to pass her deal. Expect A LOT to be made of this over the next month. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NurembergVillan Posted December 18, 2018 Moderator Share Posted December 18, 2018 4 minutes ago, Chindie said: The thread is sobering. This is not normal. Quote Breaking: The Govt is today pushing the button on every single one of its no-deal Brexit plans and implementing them all *in full*. There are 320 workstreams across Whitehall on no-deal with each workstream likely containing numerous plans. Seismic decision. The Govt will be sending 80,000 emails to key business stakeholders in the coming days to tell them what no-deal means for them. They will be pointed to a 100 page document with all the info. Something else: The Government is also going to be telling citizens what they need to do ahead of no-deal. Also: Civil servants will be working over Christmas to get all this no-deal stuff up and running before March 29, 2019. “Cabinet agreed that with just over three months until our exit from the European Union we have now reached the point where we need to ramp up these preparations... “...This means we will now set in motion the remaining elements of our no-deal plans. Cabinet also agreed to recommend businesses now also ensure they are similarly prepared, enacting their own no-deal plans as they judge necessary... "... Citizens should also prepare in line with the technical notices issued in the summer and in line with further more detailed advice that will now be issued over the coming weeks.” Downing Street reckons the number of new bills needed to make UK no-deal ready for March 29, 2019 is in "single figures". But the idea that you will be able to get multiple new pieces of legislation agreed in the space of less than three months is pretty laughable. PM's official spokesman was asked if Cabinet had discussed whether a state of emergency would need to be declared in the event of a no-deal Brexit. “I have heard no suggestion of that," spox said. Britain, 2018. Downing Street would not get into what the decision to implement all no-deal plans actually means on an item by item basis. Info will come out in coming days and weeks. Means lots of big questions remain unanswered. Just some: Will Govt book space on ferries to ensure supply of perishable/critical goods? Will Govt now start bilateral talks with each EU country on ensuring flights continue? Will Govt now take action to ensure supply of electricity in NI? Will that mean "generator barges"? Jenny Chapman, Labour’s shadow Brexit minister: “A no deal Brexit would be a disaster for jobs, the economy and the border in Northern Ireland. It is simply not a viable option." https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1075022994374840320.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xann Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 28 minutes ago, StefanAVFC said: What the actual **** is going on Tax evasion. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 To add on to the 'not normal'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Chindie said: The thread is sobering. One of the tweets: These would be a further number of new bills on top of the secondary legislation that has still to be worked through on the back of the withdrawal bill, I guess. I think I saw numbers a few weeks ago that suggested that only 20% of this has been done so far. Here it is: Quote There are just 127 days to go until the UK’s exit from the EU on 29 March 2019, but Hansard Society data, taken from our latest Westminster Lens: Brexit Statutory Instruments Dashboard, shows that only 21% of the minimum number of Statutory Instruments (SIs) the government says are needed to deliver Brexit have been laid before Parliament. If the government does not increase the pace, Parliament will shortly be faced with the impossible task of scrutinising too many SIs in too little time. Ministers have regularly said that they expect to lay between 800 and 1,000 statutory instruments to prepare the statute book for exit day, with the final figure probably closer to 800. The government has also promised it would try and avoid a ‘peak and trough’ approach to the production of the SIs so Parliament could do its scrutiny job properly. However, since the EU (Withdrawal) Act was granted Royal Assent on 26 June, half the time available to make changes to the statute book before exit day next March has now elapsed; yet, as the chart below shows, only 166 of the 800 SIs required have so far been laid.*** ...more on link So that's still loads of SIs to sift through and then pass whilst adding more new bills on top of that, having put off the 'meaningful vote' debate until the first two weeks for when Parliament returns after the recess. Sounds like the very notion of a rushed job where Parliament won't be able to properly scrutinize either the mammoth amount off work that they'd already set themselves to do or the extra work that they're going to have to prepare for on top of that. I expect a lot of dodgy shit to get swept through. *** Update as per the link in the excerpt has the number laid before Parliament as of 14th Dec at 265. Quote In September 2018 ministers indicated that the final figure would probably be closer to 800 than 1,000 and in November 2018, this figure was again revised down to approximately 700 SIs, although it was stressed that this figure might also be subject to fluctuation in the weeks ahead. So just under 38%. Edited December 18, 2018 by snowychap 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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bickster Posted December 18, 2018 Moderator Share Posted December 18, 2018 17 minutes ago, NurembergVillan said: I'll personally volunteer to load the gun for her if she decides to blow her brains out, that's one option 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raver50032 Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 Ready to sit back and watch it all burn with a large Toblerone. 52% voted leave, let them suck the mop. I for one, would rather go to prison than end up being taxed to pay the divorce bill. Let the 52% pay that... For that reason, I'm out. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desensitized43 Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 1 hour ago, NurembergVillan said: **** idiots. Theresa May ought to be burned at the **** stake. She really is a despicable piece of human garbage. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted December 18, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted December 18, 2018 1 minute ago, desensitized43 said: She really is a despicable piece of human garbage. Ah, a Tory then. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 9 minutes ago, Raver50032 said: Ready to sit back and watch it all burn with a large Toblerone. 52% voted leave, let them suck the mop. I for one, would rather go to prison than end up being taxed to pay the divorce bill. Let the 52% pay that... For that reason, I'm out. If it weren't for my unsettled status in my current home, and employment, I'd be thinking the same. I will be fine, or at least not hugely hit by this, as I have a decent job and prospects. **** em, let em rot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 I'm sure the Brexiteers will desperately find something to blame when everything goes tits up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villakram Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 2 hours ago, Chindie said: Brexit. That depicts a process with a consistent and well defined direction and outcome. This is somewhat more appropriate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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