ml1dch Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 9 hours ago, darrenm said: I don't, sorry ;-) it was Bazza If you'd care to check this link to refresh your memory... https://www.villatalk.com/topic/14720-should-i-stay-or-should-i-go-now-uk-inout-of-the-eu-contd/?page=375 "I'm genuinely confused by this one. There are loads of people having a meltdown over it but Barry Gardiner (who should know what he's talking about in this respect) says it's a bad amendment. Just not sure who to believe so it'd be great to have someone who's studied the amendment and understands the implications to explain it" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrenm Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 5 minutes ago, ml1dch said: If you'd care to check this link to refresh your memory... https://www.villatalk.com/topic/14720-should-i-stay-or-should-i-go-now-uk-inout-of-the-eu-contd/?page=375 "I'm genuinely confused by this one. There are loads of people having a meltdown over it but Barry Gardiner (who should know what he's talking about in this respect) says it's a bad amendment. Just not sure who to believe so it'd be great to have someone who's studied the amendment and understands the implications to explain it" Not that it really matters, I was referring to who originally said it was a bad amendment, not who inputted into the conversation afterwards. In the bit you've quoted above, it literally says "Barry Gardiner says it's a bad amendment" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 18 minutes ago, darrenm said: Not that it really matters, I was referring to who originally said it was a bad amendment, not who inputted into the conversation afterwards. In the bit you've quoted above, it literally says "Barry Gardiner says it's a bad amendment" You then go on to say "it would be great...to have someone explain it". Which as I then did and you thanked me for doing so, doesn't suggest I was out of line in claiming to have told you what you repeated back to me yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrenm Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 53 minutes ago, ml1dch said: You then go on to say "it would be great...to have someone explain it". Which as I then did and you thanked me for doing so, doesn't suggest I was out of line in claiming to have told you what you repeated back to me yesterday. I had forgotten it was discussed in this thread so thanks for the reminder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Chindie Posted January 9, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted January 9, 2018 3 minutes ago, StefanAVFC said: Ha! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 "Prime Minister - you know all those rules that the EU have written down in all those big long documents that we haven't read? Well, they're only going and bloody sticking to them! Yours, David Davis, Master Negotiator" 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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markavfc40 Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 (edited) 11 hours ago, StefanAVFC said: It shows just how thick and incompetent he is in that he has highlighted the fact that the EU is preparing for any eventuality, in this case specifically one he has been threatening since day one with his no deal is better than a bad deal bollocks, where has he/we are totally unprepared. He has simply highlighted his own failings. I am both amazed and saddened that we have this idiot heading up our negotiations. Edited January 9, 2018 by markavfc40 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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tonyh29 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 1 hour ago, NurembergVillan said: Trouble is Blair only represented his interests so it just makes him look a hypocrite as well as a smarmy war criminal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NurembergVillan Posted January 10, 2018 Moderator Share Posted January 10, 2018 11 hours ago, tonyh29 said: Trouble is Blair only represented his interests so it just makes him look a hypocrite as well as a smarmy war criminal You could say the first part about a great number of politicians these days though. Look at the Johnson clan/Toby Young fiasco. Philip May is walking round with a dirty arse as well, so it'd be improbable to think his Mrs isn't looking out for their combined interests. One thing that did strike me watching him speak is how much of a leadership figure he came across as. Authoritative and commanding, I can imagine he'd inspire confidence if you worked for him. That doesn't excuse anything he got up to, but he certainly carried a lot more authority than Cameron or May. Although to be fair, Frank Spencer carried more authority than "Mrs May". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, NurembergVillan said: You could say the first part about a great number of politicians these days though. Look at the Johnson clan/Toby Young fiasco. Philip May is walking round with a dirty arse as well, so it'd be improbable to think his Mrs isn't looking out for their combined interests. One thing that did strike me watching him speak is how much of a leadership figure he came across as. Authoritative and commanding, I can imagine he'd inspire confidence if you worked for him. That doesn't excuse anything he got up to, but he certainly carried a lot more authority than Cameron or May. Although to be fair, Frank Spencer carried more authority than "Mrs May". all politicians arguably ...( cue the Fan boys saying Corbyn is different ) But yeah Blair understood the game and played it very well .. but I thought Cameron was of a similar Ilk to Blair , in that he was a capable of knocking out a decent speech when it came down to it ? style over substance sort of thing I have to say when I met Cameron he's kinda quite impressive in the flesh , very relaxed , friendly , chatty etc .. then again I'd sorta expect that from a politician ... I'm not sure I'd have wanted to be around Cameron in a crises as I'd imagine he'd just be running a round in circles and still managing to get lost P.s Fairly sue Philip May is clean , the blog that claimed otherwise was proven to be about as reliable as Micah Richards Edited January 10, 2018 by tonyh29 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted January 10, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted January 10, 2018 It's alright everyone, we've sent a parade of Brexit clearings in the woods to meet notably French politician Michel Barnier with a hamper including some cheddar and sparkling wine. And some Shakespeare. ... 'kin hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 25 minutes ago, Chindie said: It's alright everyone, we've sent a parade of Brexit clearings in the woods to meet notably French politician Michel Barnier with a hamper including some cheddar and sparkling wine. And some Shakespeare. ... 'kin hell. lets hope we stick a label on the sparkling wine calling it English Champagne just to really piss him off 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 (edited) 43 minutes ago, Chindie said: It's alright everyone, we've sent a parade of Brexit clearings in the woods to meet notably French politician Michel Barnier with a hamper including some cheddar and sparkling wine. And some Shakespeare. ... 'kin hell. While Messers Davis and Hammond are off in Germany telling everyone how silly it would be to do anything that might make it harder for financial services firms to operate. Demonstrating a massive lack of self-awareness, in Davis's case at least. Edited January 10, 2018 by ml1dch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 33 minutes ago, ml1dch said: While Messers Davis and Hammond are off in Germany telling everyone how silly it would be to do anything that might make it harder for financial services firms to operate. Demonstrating a massive lack of self-awareness, in Davis's case at least. Apparently somebody from the German delegation described it as the latest episode in the british 'cake and eat it' sitcom. It's almost like those devious euro cheats are reading our newspapers and social media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 3 minutes ago, chrisp65 said: Apparently somebody from the German delegation described it as the latest episode in the british 'cake and eat it' sitcom. It's almost like those devious euro cheats are reading our newspapers and social media. The other amusing irony is that their current tactic is basically "if you don't let us keep things as they are then you are risking political and economic instability". Or, the exact sentiment that was so widely mocked by the same people in June 2016 who are now using it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted January 10, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted January 10, 2018 (edited) 5 hours ago, Chindie said: It's alright everyone, we've sent a parade of Brexit clearings in the woods to meet notably French politician Michel Barnier with a hamper including some cheddar and sparkling wine. And some Shakespeare. ... 'kin hell. Full contents of the hamper are supposed to be as follows ...Christ. I mean... For **** sake. The idea is bad enough in the first place but that is the best they could do? PG Tips? Biography of Churchill? It's like a joke. Edited January 10, 2018 by Chindie 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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