dont_do_it_doug. Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 3 minutes ago, ferguson1 said: Was at the game Saturday and one thing is really apparent - we are a quiet team! If we are to make just one signing this window (God hope there's more by the way) but we need a talker/voice in the middle of the park. The type of player that talks to players and the ref at times, can put his fist up to some to get them going and put an arm round others that need encouragement. You can see that the current players have slowly regressed over six months. Gana is mute I'm sure! Now, I really don't know who but we need someone to lead us for rest of season and the next (ie a Joey Barton, a Kevin Nolan type player). It may also make the opposition think that we are not pushovers as I'm sure most teams do at present. I don't know if Nolan's legs have gone, or if he's just taking some time out of the game. But he would be EXACTLY the kind of player we should be signing. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralJazzman Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 4 minutes ago, useless said: Perhaps they're waiting to how we do in the next two games before deciding which type of players to go for. If we get a couple of wins and close the gap then we might see some ambitious signings/loans. Interesting point. Players might be more willing to come at that stage, but it may be too late to make a difference if we don't get results. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 2 hours ago, dudevillaisnice said: Bournemouth spending £8m on Grabban after £10m on Afobe. Eddie Howe is Martin O'Neill? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markavfc40 Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 11 hours ago, sexbelowsound said: I can't imagine Garde would have signed up for this if he was told there was no money for transfers available. To be honest I'm beginning to wonder what he was told to make him think this was a wise career move. 11 days into January and no movement to me suggests that we're dragging our feet, as per usual. I think if he was to be given any significant sums of money to spend he had to keep us in touch. The gap was 4 points to safety when he came in and I wouldn't be surprised if part of the discussions when he joined went along the lines of you keep us with in a couple of wins of safety and there will be x amount to spend. The failure to do that has clearly changed the landscape and I'd be very surprised if we spend significant sums now and any spending will be in bringing in players that can compete in the Championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferguson1 Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 1 minute ago, dont_do_it_doug. said: I don't know if Nolan's legs have gone, or if he's just taking some time out of the game. But he would be EXACTLY the kind of player we should be signing. Sometimes you have to look at signing a player with a bit of 'character' as well as ability. We simply don't have that character. Nolan may have been a good or some may say bad example, but I think we need that type. I just can't think of a younger one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 1 hour ago, Supervillan78 said: We should try and get Shelvey IMO. Unpopular on here perhaps. however he is obtainable and he would certainly improve the first team. his workrate will fit him right it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 Just now, ferguson1 said: Sometimes you have to look at signing a player with a bit of 'character' as well as ability. We simply don't have that character. Nolan may have been a good or some may say bad example, but I think we need that type. I just can't think of a younger one! I think I'd need to watch more Championship football to know for sure what is down there but I like Liam Bridcutt. Another one might be Jon Walters if he's still struggling for regular football at the end of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudevillaisnice Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 19 minutes ago, useless said: Perhaps they're waiting to how we do in the next two games before deciding which type of players to go for. If we get a couple of wins and close the gap then we might see some ambitious signings/loans. Do you honestly think that? I don't see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thabucks Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 Byram & Mowatt from Leeds Henry & Bradshaw from Walsall. Kramaric (loan) or some other striker on loan. Plus a frenchie. Sorted ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSV Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 writing is on the wall. Selling high earners.. bringing in a few loan signings.. to be honest.. i dont blame Lerner for backing Garde right now... no matter who we sign we are doomed.. teams around us have strengthened and we are already way behind them. I blame him for everything else mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 Byram & Mowatt from Leeds Henry & Bradshaw from Walsall. Kramaric (loan) or some other striker on loan. Plus a frenchie. Sorted ??? Signing a bloke who struggles for games and goals at Leicester **** me that's how far we've fallen Yes to Byram though, I'd be disappointed if we're not trying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 I haven't seen much of Bridcutt but I know he's seen as a joke on Readytogo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 Teams who get out of the Championship and stay in the Premiership tend to play good football. If we go down we don't need to sign a bunch of blood and thunder players and play dinosaur football. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAPABAP///wAAACH5BAEKAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAICRAEAOw== It's just a guess, but if we do get a couple of wins then I'd like to think they'd go for it. I happen to think they should be doing what they can now and not waiting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 17 minutes ago, useless said: I haven't seen much of Bridcutt but I know he's seen as a joke on Readytogo. Not a premier league player but was excellent at Brighton and Leeds fans seem to like him in his loan spell there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 Even if we go down I think we should be signing players who can grow into a team ready for the Prem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 we should be aiming for young and hungry players (and I dont mean the Lambert approach of young and cheap) ambitious players that have a point to prove and no little talent also need sign at least 2 hard nosed veterans as an influence on the squad. as I said maybe a player like Parker who will gain respect from others 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 Well if you look at the teams doing well this season likes of Hull and Burnley kept most of their squad and added a striker or two e.g. Andre Gray. Boro have a very good squad, Downing is still a good player at prem level, they have Nugent plus existing good players like Leadbitter, Adomah etc. Same with Derby, already a strong squad for the level and added Bent, Weimann, Butterfield and Bradley Johnson. To me try and keep Okore, Ayew, Adama, Grealish (if he can be bothered), sign a decent striker as I doubt Gestede will be feeling as good about life as he was at Blackburn after this season and get a solid defensive unit going e.g. new keeper, someone to partner Okore. If we just naively go in with mostly the same group of players who have been so used to losing then we will be found out particularly as to me this is a very lightweight group who hide when the going gets tough in matches. It was a very good point made there's hardly anyone vocal in our team and no leaders. It's a problem we've had since the MON years when the team was full of them so surely we can find 1-2 players capable of this a division lower. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderball Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 I don't get the 'we need championship players if we are going down'? Surely championship players are in the championship because that's their standard, to get out we need decent (premier league or equivalent) players. Same about the managers; good football and good coaching/management will prevail, not getting down and wrestling in the mud? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudevillaisnice Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 3 minutes ago, thunderball said: I don't get the 'we need championship players if we are going down'? Surely championship players are in the championship because that's their standard, to get out we need decent (premier league or equivalent) players. Same about the managers; good football and good coaching/management will prevail, not getting down and wrestling in the mud? Some of them sure. However targeting younger players who are doing well with their clubs should be the remit. Cresswell going to West Ham and doing so well, he has clearly shown he is better than the championship for example. What we need to do is get these players i.e Byram who has potential to make the step up but can also immediately do very well for us in the championship. Forget what we did before with targeting younger players, they weren't even doing that well with their clubs at the time. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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