markavfc40 Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 Cold War Steve bang on the money again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desensitized43 Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 4 minutes ago, bickster said: Much chatter (unattributed) about letters going in The Express seems to think that Bravermans Common Sense Group and Kruger / Cates New Conservative Group have 60 members between them. It's hard to tell as some MPs are members of both (Kruger and Lee Anderson definitely) and other members aren't declared 350 Tory MPs mean that 15% = 53 letters to trigger a leadership election Its possible they may have the numbers. The Guardian at one point thought that CSG had 59 members Classic naming from the total headbangers. Much like the European Research Group who have yet to publish a single piece of research on Europe or otherwise. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NurembergVillan Posted November 13, 2023 Moderator Share Posted November 13, 2023 1 hour ago, markavfc40 said: The more I think about this bringing Cameron back into the fold the less sense it makes. Particularly as he's a Remoaner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 36 minutes ago, bickster said: Next couple of weeks polling could provide record making mirth I'm prepared to look silly, but I reckon he might see a bit of a jump. Nothing spectacular obviously. But I think a few "Tories + 3" here and there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted November 13, 2023 Moderator Share Posted November 13, 2023 Just now, ml1dch said: I'm prepared to look silly, but I reckon he might see a bit of a jump. Nothing spectacular obviously. But I think a few "Tories + 3" here and there. I'm not convinced there are many mid ground votes for them to win any more, they certainly won't be shifting the Reform voters after today. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted November 13, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted November 13, 2023 This constant “she speaks for so many people in this country” line on Suella said by sympathetic commentators. What’s “so many”? Is there any indication as to what number or percentage of the population she speaks for or is it just a case of we keep saying it again and again and maybe a few people will accept it as fact without any further clarification? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted November 13, 2023 Moderator Share Posted November 13, 2023 I found the express article on MSN so as to not pollute your devices. Some classic quotes (unattributed) in here Quote [...]"Some colleagues will be understandably nervous about having yet another leadership contest but it is clear now that the choice is to change leader and Prime Minister or face electoral annihilation." The MP said that the initial part of the major reshuffle had "created a feeling of complete despair". The backbencher added: "It is clear now that the Prime Minister wants to destroy the right of the party and we have to retaliate."[...] [...]"That's the man who fought tooth and nail to stop us leaving the European Union in the referendum, now he is Foreign Secretary."[...] [...]"The mood music is clear and the direction of the government now is one which will only leave us to electoral defeat."[...] [...]"Sunak has committed political suicide."[...] [...]"Time for letters to go in. Let's see what mess is made of the reshuffle too."[...] [...]"I'm furious. He [Sunak] is no politician. He doesn't understand that the Tory faithful are pretty much only faithful because of Suella."[...] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted November 13, 2023 Author Moderator Share Posted November 13, 2023 1 minute ago, Mark Albrighton said: This constant “she speaks for so many people in this country” line on Suella said by sympathetic commentators. What’s “so many”? Nearly several 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 I think this is Sunak deciding **** it, if he's going down he'll try and salvage as much dignity as possible and telling the hard right to do one. Hopefully the next election isn't as toxic as a result. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 Would they really entertain another leadership contest so close to a GE (they’ll almost certainly lose massively)? Why not just get it over with, call the general election, lose, then try and get back in in 5 years time rather than 6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 9 minutes ago, Genie said: Why not just get it over with, call the general election, lose, then try and get back in in 5 years time rather than 6. Because Sunak knows that his time is up when he loses. And a bit like Brown in 2010, he'd rather squeeze another 6-9 months out of being Prime Minister. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted November 13, 2023 Author Moderator Share Posted November 13, 2023 23 minutes ago, Genie said: Why not just get it over with, call the general election, lose, then try and get back in in 5 years time rather than 6. There’s an awful lot of baby eaters going to be unemployed and not earning their generous wages and expenses. They’ll be very cross if they lose that a year earlier than necessary. Plus, hanging on in quiet desperation is always the way. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted November 13, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted November 13, 2023 4 minutes ago, blandy said: Plus, hanging on in quiet desperation is always the way. I understood that reference. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted November 13, 2023 Author Moderator Share Posted November 13, 2023 Just now, mjmooney said: I understood that reference. Good considering you are pre dsotm favouring. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 40 minutes ago, Genie said: Why not just get it over with, call the general election, lose, then try and get back in in 5 years time rather than 6. £87,000 PA basic salary for the quietest back bencher doing nothing, expenses to employ ‘staff’, and an extra £2,200 pa pension for every extra 12 months you serve. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 7 minutes ago, chrisp65 said: £87,000 PA basic salary for the quietest back bencher doing nothing, expenses to employ ‘staff’, and an extra £2,200 pa pension for every extra 12 months you serve. I was thinking more so from Sunak’s point of view. The salary is less of a factor for him but I guess he needs the backing of the MP’s to call a snap election. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 1 hour ago, markavfc40 said: Cold War Steve bang on the money again. And he's a Villa fan for good measure 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 This is a parody right? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VILLAMARV Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 5 minutes ago, StefanAVFC said: This is a parody right? I was about to ask you the same thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 7 minutes ago, StefanAVFC said: This is a parody right? Seriously, is this a joke? Please tell me it’s not a real job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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