Popular Post Chindie Posted October 25, 2023 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted October 25, 2023 If there was the smallest grain of justice in the universe, someone in a position of power spouting such contemptuous bollocks would be struck down dead the second the words left their mouth. **** scum. 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 1 hour ago, sidcow said: I've been reading the Labour Party thread though and they seem to be pretty much the same so I'm voting Tory next election. They're basically the same anyway. Me too, it'll be a protest vote 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheltenham_villa Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 14 minutes ago, blandy said: Yeah. Though removing the cap will make some, highly paid already, bankers better off. Which is a terrible look when everyone else is struggling with high prices and so on. Suspect it makes little difference. Banks will all report billions of profit this year. Those people were getting paid In dividends, share options, employed by international arms of the same companies. It's a bad look and I'm sure will get air time. Pointlessly 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 So after sunak gets obliterated at next election he will obviously be removed as it will be one of the worst tory results in years who is next? Im going to say mordaunt or gove. Both wont last longer than one term. I reckon it will be either 3 or 4 different tory leaders until they come back in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mozzavfc Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 1 hour ago, Demitri_C said: So after sunak gets obliterated at next election he will obviously be removed as it will be one of the worst tory results in years who is next? Im going to say mordaunt or gove. Both wont last longer than one term. I reckon it will be either 3 or 4 different tory leaders until they come back in It'll be Braverman on an anti-immigration push, and the idea that the reason they lost is they weren't right wing enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted October 25, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted October 25, 2023 I guess it would depend on who’s left standing and who’s also left standing to support them to get the job. I honestly wouldn’t be surprised to see Johnson or Truss try and come back again. Although Johnson probably wouldn’t want to do the legwork in opposition would be my main reason for him not coming back, rather than the tories not wanting him back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted October 25, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted October 25, 2023 32 minutes ago, Mark Albrighton said: I honestly wouldn’t be surprised to see Johnson or Truss try and come back again. Although Johnson probably wouldn’t want to do the legwork in opposition would be my main reason for him not coming back, rather than the tories not wanting him back. I think Johnson is more likely to try and join the Labour Party. And I'm not even joking. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 3 minutes ago, Mark Albrighton said: I honestly wouldn’t be surprised to see Johnson or Truss try and come back again. Although Johnson probably wouldn’t want to do the legwork in opposition would be my main reason for him not coming back, rather than the tories not wanting him back. I'd say the bigger reason is that he's not an MP. And given it would be (a) difficult for him to become one again without the blessing of the leader and (b) obvious that if he tried to become one it would with the intention of usurping the leader, it'll be a while before he's back. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted October 25, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted October 25, 2023 9 minutes ago, ml1dch said: I'd say the bigger reason is that he's not an MP. And given it would be (a) difficult for him to become one again without the blessing of the leader and (b) obvious that if he tried to become one it would with the intention of usurping the leader, it'll be a while before he's back. I’ll amend it just Truss then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted October 25, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted October 25, 2023 Bone suspended for six weeks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 1 hour ago, Mozzavfc said: It'll be Braverman on an anti-immigration push, and the idea that the reason they lost is they weren't right wing enough Crazy if they double down in the madness that has taken them to the obliteration. They really don’t have anywhere else to go though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 48 minutes ago, mjmooney said: I think Johnson is more likely to try and join the Labour Party. And I'm not even joking. I think he will get in bed with farage if he wants to come back and try form another party. 1 hour ago, Mozzavfc said: It'll be Braverman on an anti-immigration push, and the idea that the reason they lost is they weren't right wing enough I think braverman would be one of the few mps that would do worse than sunak will in election Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 What they need is a leader who steers them back towards the centre and the EU. 2 things they can’t do for a long time. Hope they enjoy the bed they made. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 42 minutes ago, Mark Albrighton said: I’ll amend it just Truss then. Definitely wouldn't rule it out. However, the winner will almost certainly be whichever candidate the right of the party coalesces around, as that is who the members will vote for. I think that those MPs will think "we did this Truss thing already, let's try something different" Braverman is then the obvious choice, but I wouldn't completely rule out her being the 2024 Portillo moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted October 25, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted October 25, 2023 44 minutes ago, Mark Albrighton said: Bone suspended for six weeks. How many more by-elections before they're a minority party anyway? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 They’ll turn on Braverman so fast once the really media start ripping in to her. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 2 minutes ago, sidcow said: How many more by-elections before they're a minority party anyway? It’s actually starting to look tactical, can’t lose a record number of seats in a GE if you lost them all before the election! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted October 25, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted October 25, 2023 7 minutes ago, ml1dch said: Definitely wouldn't rule it out. However, the winner will almost certainly be whichever candidate the right of the party coalesces around, as that is who the members will vote for. I think that those MPs will think "we did this Truss thing already, let's try something different" Braverman is then the obvious choice, but I wouldn't completely rule out her being the 2024 Portillo moment. My suspicion (based on gut feeling more than anything) is Truss would be unsuccessful in trying to return. But I think she would try. And I think Johnson would make some noise about mandates or whatever and then realise the practicalities of coming back would be tricky. My feeling on Braverman is that while she is appealing to the throbbers and probably the obvious candidate, on some level a few will know deep down she’s too unpopular to win over the public at large. I wonder about someone like Tobias Ellwood. But then I never really see his name mentioned with the leadership so I guess there’s a reason for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Follyfoot Posted October 25, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted October 25, 2023 3 hours ago, Demitri_C said: So after sunak gets obliterated at next election he will obviously be removed as it will be one of the worst tory results in years who is next? Im going to say mordaunt or gove. Both wont last longer than one term. I reckon it will be either 3 or 4 different tory leaders until they come back in Penny, penny. Penny. Penny. Penny. Penny.Please Penny @rjw63 Will understand 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 I think the average tory punter’s wet dream would be now let me finish Farage. But he’d have to win a seat first, something he’s not managed on his first 37 attempts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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