tonyh29 Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 2 hours ago, blandy said: Because of our FPTP electoral system. I live in a safe seat area. Any/all votes I cast are totally wasted (other than parties get some funding based on how many votes they get, thus a vote for (say) Greens gives them a few pence. Our system is completely broken, but it the tories love it, and Labour do too, as long as they think they have a sniff of outright government. in the 2015 election Ukip won 12.6 per cent of the vote and only managed to get one MP into parliament. By contrast, the SNP only got 4.7 per cent of the vote and returned 56 MPs if we could get a system whereby both those parties got 0 MP's I'm sure we'd all be happy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ingram85 Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 3 hours ago, markavfc40 said: I'd be amazed mate if by scraping busrsaries and since September charging 9k a year is going to get more people into nursing. My daughter is 18 months into her mental health nursing degree. She missed out on the bursary but was in the last year of students that don't pay the 9k in fees. The bursary I think was approx £500 a month. Most of the course is placement based and she does 37 hours a week. The closet hospital she has been placed at is 12 miles away, the furthest has been just over 20 miles. Much of the time on placement she is doing the work a nursing assistant should be doing so things like observing patients, general ward observations, doing meals, cleaning up patients etc. This is because the wards are so under staffed. It is therefore like going to work for 37 hours a week for nothing. From September students will have had to pay 9k a year for three years for that privilege. I genuinely can't see how removing the bursary and charging students 9k a year is going to entice more people into the profession and I'd imagine figures will either be out now or out in the near future to back that up. They are in cloud cuckoo land if they think people are going to pay for the privilege of learning to get a job where the people above and Tory policy are setting us up to fail. Scrapping the bursary was the worst thing they could have done for the nursing numbers, but the best thing for the Tories as it gives them another round in the chamber. If Labour don’t get back in in the next GE then the nhs will finally die. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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markavfc40 Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 All this reshuffle has done is again highlight how weak Theresa May is. It has been a shambles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted January 8, 2018 Moderator Share Posted January 8, 2018 Justine Greening didn't fancy Work and Pensions so much she resigned from the cabinet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted January 8, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted January 8, 2018 This is just further evidence for weak May is. Not only can she not sack anyone, the only ones that should be sacked she's not even trying to. Apparently being a **** up saves your job in this government. Keeping things barely ticking over gets you moved. But she's so weak if you fancy not moving you just say no. How is this government still going? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted January 8, 2018 Moderator Share Posted January 8, 2018 Justine Greening's move to the backbenches could hurt, she's now bound to join the Anna Soubry gang on the back benches. A remainer herself, elected by a very remain constituency... Could be more significant than it first appears 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted January 8, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted January 8, 2018 Esther McVey in as DWP head. What a choice. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted January 8, 2018 Moderator Share Posted January 8, 2018 1 minute ago, Chindie said: Esther McVey in as DWP head. What a choice. If the minister isn't hated by the people affected by the department they aren't doing a good enough job. She'll fit right in, odious witch 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted January 8, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted January 8, 2018 They're not really even trying to hide it anymore. I'm surprised Philip Davies hasn't managed to get a ministerial position in charge of women's issues or similar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterms Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 1 hour ago, bickster said: Justine Greening didn't fancy Work and Pensions so much she resigned from the cabinet Very sensible. It's likely to cause a lot of political damage to whoever is in charge. You'd have to be a pretty dim, careerist airhead with little grasp of political reality to take it on. Oh, hi, Esther! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post HanoiVillan Posted January 8, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted January 8, 2018 The Toby Young saga continues: 'When one of Young’s incendiary tweets was read out to him, [Jo] Johnson said: “I recognise that many of the tweets have been obnoxious and repellant in many ways, but it is also important to recognise that tweet was probably eight or nine years old, since which time Mr Young has been on something of a developmental journey. It is possible that there is a capacity for reform, and we want to encourage Mr Young to develop the best sides of his personality.”' https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/jan/08/tory-mps-urged-to-go-on-offensive-to-deflect-criticism-of-toby-young Why do the British public need to pay for Young to go on a 'developmental journey' (he's 54)? Why does he need a job in charge of a regulatory body and help from the government to 'develop the best sides of his personality'? We are through the looking glass here. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a m ole Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 I don’t think this news needs much more analysis than ‘what a group of utter **** words removed’ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 1 hour ago, Chindie said: Esther McVey in as DWP head. What a choice. That is a frightful appointment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterms Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 2 minutes ago, snowychap said: That is a frightful appointment. But so in keeping with the general leitmotif of this administration, no? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post dAVe80 Posted January 8, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted January 8, 2018 From Viz's Facebook today. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterms Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 Estherday, career advancement seemed so far away, Now it looks as though I'm here to stay Thanks Mrs May, for Estherday. Suddenly, you're not half the man you used to be Disability came suddenly Do you think this comes for free? Well, you can appeal, it will cost a fair few quid. You're a parasite, you don't need our benefits. Interviews, I'm already bored of interviews Some losers commit suicide It's really not my fault you see Because all I care about is me Oh Estherday, it's me, me, me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post chrisp65 Posted January 9, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted January 9, 2018 Toby Young now free to write another book about what a prick he is. 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted January 9, 2018 Moderator Share Posted January 9, 2018 7 minutes ago, chrisp65 said: Toby Young now free to write another book about what a prick he is. Theresa May's Scaramucci Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted January 9, 2018 Moderator Share Posted January 9, 2018 If Monty Python did Government... EDIT: The Ministry of Revolving Doors 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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