tonyh29 Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 9 minutes ago, chrisp65 said: Why don't we just give the NHS and charities and children's causes and social workers and disability groups an extra £35 Billion. Then, once a year, the BBC could host a week long telethon to raise money for nuclear weapons. I'm sure the Bolshevik Broadcasting Corporation would make sure the money gets to the Russians But on a sorta related theme , I was thinking the other day about the lottery funding that allows all these gold medallists to win lucrative sponsorship deals with Santander , Quorn and who ever and thinking .. that its great we all get to wave a flag and gloat about how we beat China and the Aussies in the gold medal table but could the £348m a year be better spent ? I believe there already is a health lottery so it should be easy enough to re-divert the funds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villakram Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 (edited) Courtesy of your favourite freedom loving government, the following 48 entities will now gain access to the last 12 months of your browsing history. When will private industry also gain access? Do you VPN? Metropolitan police force City of London police force Police forces maintained under section 2 of the Police Act 1996 Police Service of Scotland Police Service of Northern Ireland British Transport Police Ministry of Defence Police Royal Navy Police Royal Military Police Royal Air Force Police Security Service Secret Intelligence Service GCHQ Ministry of Defence Department of Health Home Office Ministry of Justice National Crime Agency HM Revenue & Customs Department for Transport Department for Work and Pensions NHS trusts and foundation trusts in England that provide ambulance services Common Services Agency for the Scottish Health Service Competition and Markets Authority Criminal Cases Review Commission Department for Communities in Northern Ireland Department for the Economy in Northern Ireland Department of Justice in Northern Ireland Financial Conduct Authority Fire and rescue authorities under the Fire and Rescue Services Act 2004 Food Standards Agency Food Standards Scotland Gambling Commission Gangmasters and Labour Abuse Authority Health and Safety Executive Independent Police Complaints Commissioner Information Commissioner NHS Business Services Authority Northern Ireland Ambulance Service Health and Social Care Trust Northern Ireland Fire and Rescue Service Board Northern Ireland Health and Social Care Regional Business Services Organisation Office of Communications Office of the Police Ombudsman for Northern Ireland Police Investigations and Review Commissioner Scottish Ambulance Service Board Scottish Criminal Cases Review Commission Serious Fraud Office Welsh Ambulance Services National Health Service Trust http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-26/these-are-48-organizations-now-have-access-every-brits-browsing-history Edited November 28, 2016 by villakram Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted November 28, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted November 28, 2016 How long till that information leaks? I somewhat suspect the private industry interest is already signed and sealed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 27 minutes ago, villakram said: Courtesy of your favourite freedom loving government, the following 48 entities will now gain access to the last 12 months of your browsing history. When will private industry also gain access? Do you VPN? Metropolitan police force City of London police force Police forces maintained under section 2 of the Police Act 1996 Police Service of Scotland Police Service of Northern Ireland British Transport Police Ministry of Defence Police Royal Navy Police Royal Military Police Royal Air Force Police Security Service Secret Intelligence Service GCHQ Ministry of Defence Department of Health Home Office Ministry of Justice National Crime Agency HM Revenue & Customs Department for Transport Department for Work and Pensions NHS trusts and foundation trusts in England that provide ambulance services Common Services Agency for the Scottish Health Service Competition and Markets Authority Criminal Cases Review Commission Department for Communities in Northern Ireland Department for the Economy in Northern Ireland Department of Justice in Northern Ireland Financial Conduct Authority Fire and rescue authorities under the Fire and Rescue Services Act 2004 Food Standards Agency Food Standards Scotland Gambling Commission Gangmasters and Labour Abuse Authority Health and Safety Executive Independent Police Complaints Commissioner Information Commissioner NHS Business Services Authority Northern Ireland Ambulance Service Health and Social Care Trust Northern Ireland Fire and Rescue Service Board Northern Ireland Health and Social Care Regional Business Services Organisation Office of Communications Office of the Police Ombudsman for Northern Ireland Police Investigations and Review Commissioner Scottish Ambulance Service Board Scottish Criminal Cases Review Commission Serious Fraud Office Welsh Ambulance Services National Health Service Trust http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-26/these-are-48-organizations-now-have-access-every-brits-browsing-history was done a few pages back ... no wonder they were able to sneak the bill through with this level of attention paying not quite related to this travesty of a law but sorta related I was just reading an article about state sponsored hacking of mobiles whereby some geek types tracked a serious attack on their iPhone back to the UAE ... seems the actual code (this one at least ) is supplied by a Israeli based company who sell it to governments for them to use in the name of national security ( spying on Middle East human rights activists in this instance ) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrenm Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 Going back a couple of subjects, we can afford the NHS, and it is currently chronically underfunded. There's a bit too much mid level management and a bit too much bureaucracy but nothing out of type for a large organisation. There's about 50% of the required amount of front line staff and most of these are paid way under what they should be. Other countries have far better healthcare systems free at point of care simply because they put more money in. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 7 minutes ago, darrenm said: Going back a couple of subjects, we can afford the NHS, and it is currently chronically underfunded. There's a bit too much mid level management and a bit too much bureaucracy but nothing out of type for a large organisation. There's about 50% of the required amount of front line staff and most of these are paid way under what they should be. Other countries have far better healthcare systems free at point of care simply because they put more money in. Isn't that what we did under the previous administration though ? Not everything can be solved by chucking money at it , just ask Man U fans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xann Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 52 minutes ago, Chindie said: I somewhat suspect the private industry interest is already signed and sealed. Wives and chums will be getting an inside line. It's just too good a honeypot, they won't be able to resist. Because they're scum. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrenm Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 19 minutes ago, tonyh29 said: Isn't that what we did under the previous administration though ? Not everything can be solved by chucking money at it , just ask Man U fans Under Labour? We certainly didn't have the problems we have now back then. There's a difference between adequately funding something and throwing money at it though. There's absolutely no wastage in the NHS right now, everything is stripped to the bone. A CEO revolving door at hospitals all tasked with cutting costs to unrealistic levels saw to that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 IPA received Royal Assent today. Amber Rudd: The Investigatory Powers Act is world-leading legislation Quote Jim Killock, executive director of the Open Rights Group, responded to the home secretary’s “world-leading” claim, saying: “She is right, it is one of the most extreme surveillance laws ever passed in a democracy. The IP Act will have an impact that goes beyond the UK’s shores. It is likely that other countries, including authoritarian regimes with poor human rights records, will use this law to justify their own intrusive surveillance powers.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 Personally, I get a bit more buzz knowing that Theresa May gets a summary sheet of what I've been knocking one out to this week. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterms Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 9 minutes ago, chrisp65 said: Personally, I get a bit more buzz knowing that Theresa May gets a summary sheet of what I've been knocking one out to this week. Would it be reading too much into this to think that she might be involved at both ends of the tale? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 43 minutes ago, chrisp65 said: Personally, I get a bit more buzz knowing that Theresa May gets a summary sheet of what I've been knocking one out to this week. I was planning to just cut out the middle man and email her a daily list of smut that I've watched. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MakemineVanilla Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 47 minutes ago, chrisp65 said: Personally, I get a bit more buzz knowing that Theresa May gets a summary sheet of what I've been knocking one out to this week. Isn't that Farmers Weekly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 If anyone is interested , here is the reply I received back from the Govt in response to the online Petition on the snoopers charter that I filed in it's upto 100,000 now so I think it triggers a debate in Parliament next ... not that it will do a huge amount of good Government responded: The Investigatory Powers Act dramatically increases transparency around the use of investigatory powers. It protects both privacy and security and underwent unprecedented scrutiny before becoming law. The Government is clear that, at a time of heightened security threat, it is essential our law enforcement, security and intelligence services have the powers they need to keep people safe. The Investigatory Powers Act transforms the law relating to the use and oversight of Investigatory powers. It strengthens safeguards and introduces world-leading oversight arrangements. The Act does three key things. First, it brings together powers already available to law enforcement and the security and intelligence agencies to obtain communications and data about communications. It makes these powers – and the safeguards that apply to them – clear and understandable. Second, it radically overhauls the way these powers are authorised and overseen. It introduces a ‘double-lock’ for the most intrusive powers, including interception and all of the bulk capabilities, so warrants require the approval of a Judicial Commissioner. And it creates a powerful new Investigatory Powers Commissioner to oversee how these powers are used. Third, it ensures powers are fit for the digital age. The Act makes a single new provision for the retention of internet connection records in order for law enforcement to identify the communications service to which a device has connected. This will restore capabilities that have been lost as a result of changes in the way people communicate. Public scrutiny The Bill was subject to unprecedented scrutiny prior to and during its passage. The Bill responded to three independent reports: by David Anderson QC, the Independent Reviewer of Terrorism Legislation; by the Royal United Services Institute’s Independent Surveillance Review Panel; and by the Intelligence and Security Committee of Parliament. All three of those authoritative independent reports agreed a new law was needed. The Government responded to the recommendations of those reports in the form of a draft Bill, published in November 2015. That draft Bill was submitted for pre-legislative scrutiny by a Joint Committee of both Houses of Parliament. The Intelligence and Security Committee and the House of Commons Science and Technology Committee conducted parallel scrutiny. Between them, those Committees received over 1,500 pages of written submissions and heard oral evidence from the Government, industry, civil liberties groups and many others. The recommendations made by those Committees informed changes to the Bill and the publication of further supporting material. A revised Bill was introduced in the House of Commons on 1 March, and completed its passage on 16 November, meeting the timetable for legislation set by Parliament during the passage of the Data Retention and Investigatory Powers Act 2014. Over 1,700 amendments to the Bill were tabled and debated during this time. The Government has adopted an open and consultative approach throughout the passage of this legislation, tabling or accepting a significant number of amendments in both Houses of Parliament in order to improve transparency and strengthen privacy protections. These included enhanced protections for trade unions and journalistic and legally privileged material, and the introduction of a threshold to ensure internet connection records cannot be used to investigate minor crimes. Privacy and Oversight The Government has placed privacy at the heart of the Investigatory Powers Act. The Act makes clear the extent to which investigatory powers may be used and the strict safeguards that apply in order to maintain privacy. A new overarching ‘privacy clause’ was added to make absolutely clear that the protection of privacy is at the heart of this legislation. This privacy clause ensures that in each and every case a public authority must consider whether less intrusive means could be used, and must have regard to human rights and the particular sensitivity of certain information. The powers can only be exercised when it is necessary and proportionate to do so, and the Act includes tough sanctions – including the creation of new criminal offences – for those misusing the powers. The safeguards in this Act reflect the UK’s international reputation for protecting human rights. The unprecedented transparency and the new safeguards – including the ‘double lock’ for the most sensitive powers – set an international benchmark for how the law can protect both privacy and security. Home Office Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xann Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 Quote Benefits Sanctions Cost More Than They Save, National Audit Office Report Finds Benefits sanctions cost more to administer than they save, a damning report of the Government’s welfare crackdown has found. The National Audit Office (NAO), the independent watchdog of state spending, said that fining claimants for failing to meet certain conditions caused them greater hardship, and cost the Government almost twice what it gained. The analysis found the Department of Work and Pensions (DWP) spent £30-50 million a year applying sanctions, and around £200 million monitoring the terms it set for job seekers. But in 2015, it said, the measures saved just £132 million. Huffington Post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted November 30, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted November 30, 2016 It's never been about saving money. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 Urgh. This. Does. Not. Happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mockingbird_franklin Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 pc screenshot 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 I see that Boris took some time out of a book promoting trip to do some Foreign Secretarying a few weeks ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coda Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 This Snoopy Charter. I have a friend who downloads films. My friend has asked if this charter will affect their ability to download films. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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