News Terrorist Attacks June 2015

[dont_do_it_doug.]

Here's a thought I've been pondering today; what about all those people who are "saved" from a life of crime by religion? Those that only don't do "bad things" because they believe they might burn for all eternity in a literal hell hole?

Does religion save more lives than it destroys?

[davemk39]

@ygabana

 

I don't read comics.

[Wainy316]

Here's a thought I've been pondering today; what about all those people who are "saved" from a life of crime by religion? Those that only don't do "bad things" because they believe they might burn for all eternity in a literal hell hole?

Does religion save more lives than it destroys?

That would suggest that these people only do good in hope for reward. Religious types argue religion gives them a better moral code but I'd suggest it's much more shallow.

[dont_do_it_doug.]

Here's a thought I've been pondering today; what about all those people who are "saved" from a life of crime by religion? Those that only don't do "bad things" because they believe they might burn for all eternity in a literal hell hole?

Does religion save more lives than it destroys?

That would suggest that these people only do good in hope for reward. Religious types argue religion gives them a better moral code but I'd suggest it's much more shallow.

I think that all humans only do good things for reward. Whether that be social, moral or material.

I propose that the world was a murderous hell pit before religion and would be after too. The people who kill in the name of it will keep on killing for some other perceived reward. And I think there are more than a few who without the "fear of God" holding them back would join them.

I personally think religion, of all kinds, is laughable. But I believe it serves a purpose which is mostly good for mankind.

[leemond2008]

Here's a thought I've been pondering today; what about all those people who are "saved" from a life of crime by religion? Those that only don't do "bad things" because they believe they might burn for all eternity in a literal hell hole?

Does religion save more lives than it destroys?

That would suggest that these people only do good in hope for reward. Religious types argue religion gives them a better moral code but I'd suggest it's much more shallow.

I think that all humans only do good things for reward. Whether that be social, moral or material.

I disagree there, I'm a bastard but I do plenty of things for other people (often those less fortunate than me) I don't boast about the things I do, in fact I rarely mention it to anyone, I don't get any social or material boost out of it at all and it doesn't make me feel morally great because I often find myself feeling bad and wishing I could do more for them.

No one forces me to help these few people out and it would be a hell of a lot easier if I stepped over them and pretended they didn't exist but that's not in my nature.

Edited June 30, 2015 by leemond2008

[Wainy316]

Here's a thought I've been pondering today; what about all those people who are "saved" from a life of crime by religion? Those that only don't do "bad things" because they believe they might burn for all eternity in a literal hell hole?

Does religion save more lives than it destroys?

That would suggest that these people only do good in hope for reward. Religious types argue religion gives them a better moral code but I'd suggest it's much more shallow.

I think that all humans only do good things for reward. Whether that be social, moral or material.

I propose that the world was a murderous hell pit before religion and would be after too. The people who kill in the name of it will keep on killing for some other perceived reward. And I think there are more than a few who without the "fear of God" holding them back would join them.

I personally think religion, of all kinds, is laughable. But I believe it serves a purpose which is mostly good for mankind.

So God makes people kill in his name or not kill in his name. The fact that someone might not kill purely for fear of God is worrying. I don't kill people because I think it's wrong.

[dont_do_it_doug.]

@leemond('s iPhone)

You explained what you get from it. You wish you could do more, so the little you can do makes you feel "better". Even if it makes you feel sad, you are gaining an emotional reward of sorts. On some level it makes you feel better about your own life and it does feel to help others, if only on a subconscious level.

I'm not arguing that most people aren't inherently good. They are, but true altruism is a fantasy.

Besides, my post was more aimed towards big things like murder. I should have been a little clearer.

Edited June 30, 2015 by dont_do_it_doug.

[dont_do_it_doug.]

Here's a thought I've been pondering today; what about all those people who are "saved" from a life of crime by religion? Those that only don't do "bad things" because they believe they might burn for all eternity in a literal hell hole?

Does religion save more lives than it destroys?

That would suggest that these people only do good in hope for reward. Religious types argue religion gives them a better moral code but I'd suggest it's much more shallow.

I think that all humans only do good things for reward. Whether that be social, moral or material.

I propose that the world was a murderous hell pit before religion and would be after too. The people who kill in the name of it will keep on killing for some other perceived reward. And I think there are more than a few who without the "fear of God" holding them back would join them.

I personally think religion, of all kinds, is laughable. But I believe it serves a purpose which is mostly good for mankind.

So God makes people kill in his name or not kill in his name. The fact that someone might not kill purely for fear of God is worrying. I don't kill people because I think it's wrong.

Yeah, but we're not talking about me or you. We are talking about "baddies". I agree it is worrying, but there's a chance it's fact.

Edited June 30, 2015 by dont_do_it_doug.

[snowychap]

I remember the days when muslims around the globe burnt usa flags and George bush dollies.

All of 'em?

Shit, didn't we all miss out? We should have been mass producing 'George Bush dollies' (and not just for the Republicans to take to bed).

if muslims are so against IS why are they not burning black flags? I can only conclude they are not THAT opposed to IS

How many black flags have you been out burning?

[Demitri_C]

 

You absolute vile sc-um

[Brumerican]

Religion is an insult to human dignity. With or without it you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

[Eames]

ive got no problem with religious people and if they want to live side by side with god thats fine but its the nutters that use it as an excuse for violence,sexual abuse etc that are the problem. people who are religious get put down for believing in god and other religious figures and i think thats wrong because whos right is it to diss what they believe in if they are practicing their religion in peace. im not religious at all although i have prayed before so that in itself can signify that deep down i believe in a higher power but would the world be better without religion? i dont think its a complete yes but i think it would do away with a lot of violence.

People only follow religions because they've been indoctrinated as children.

Why is believing in the God of the Bible and different than believing in Harry Potter, the tooth fairy or the Loch Ness monster? They all have the same amount of evidence. Some people believe in them because we encourage children to accept things they are told without evidence.

There's a reason religions are so desperate to run the schools. If they don't, religion will disappear altogether in a few generations. I hope it will anyway as access to the facts is so much easier. The time is well overdue to remove their tax breaks and stop our taxes being given to them to try and indoctrinate future generations.

I'm broadly in agreement with you.

However religion is capable of being a positive force, albeit mostly on an individual basis.

My mums cousin and his wife are committed happy clappy Christians. Proper evangelical types. They "found" God after their two daughters who were both under 8 were diagnosed with a **** nasty genetic disorder that would see them blind deaf and paralysed before they hit puberty. He buried his youngest 2 weeks ago. His eldest wont last the year. Coupled with the fact hes recovered from 3 brain haemorrages and his wife from breast cancer. Twice.

I cant blame the poor **** for seeking a higher purpose.

[Stevo985]

Without wanting to get into a massive debate, I guess the difference in believing in God and believing in Harry Potter, is that billions of people believe in God.

 

So there may be the same amount of evidence, but if you're presented with two different scenarios and someone says "there's no evidence for either but billions of people believe option A is true, but nobody believes option B is true" then you're more likely to believe option A, I would have thought.

 

Or at least most people would. Obviously there would be exceptions.

[chrisp65]

Religion is an insult to human dignity. With or without it you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

 

That doesn't really stand up to much scrutiny does it?

 

Good people have never done evil due to betrayal, or love, or lust, or economics, politics, flags, land, oil, or mental illness, or lies, or booze, or drugs or any one of another million reasons? Or perhaps you think that anyone that acts out of character out of desperation was evil all along, just biding their time?

 

Come on, there are stronger arguments than that against 'god'.

[limpid]

Without wanting to get into a massive debate, I guess the difference in believing in God and believing in Harry Potter, is that billions of people believe in God.

 

So there may be the same amount of evidence, but if you're presented with two different scenarios and someone says "there's no evidence for either but billions of people believe option A is true, but nobody believes option B is true" then you're more likely to believe option A, I would have thought.

 

Or at least most people would. Obviously there would be exceptions.

An appeal to popularity is a fallacy. It doesn't matter how many people something. Either it's true or it isn't. (That's 50/50.)

 

Besides; which God? Pretty much every religious person believes in a different God (or gods). Most Christians don't believe in the volcano god / mountain spirit / air god /drug delusion described in the Bible they share with the other Abrahamic religions  There is only one Harry Potter. Arguably more people believe in Harry Potter than in any personal definition of God. Unless you are talking about "something out there" which is deism and not religion or theism and god with a small "g".

[Wainy316]

ive got no problem with religious people and if they want to live side by side with god thats fine but its the nutters that use it as an excuse for violence,sexual abuse etc that are the problem. people who are religious get put down for believing in god and other religious figures and i think thats wrong because whos right is it to diss what they believe in if they are practicing their religion in peace. im not religious at all although i have prayed before so that in itself can signify that deep down i believe in a higher power but would the world be better without religion? i dont think its a complete yes but i think it would do away with a lot of violence.

People only follow religions because they've been indoctrinated as children.

Why is believing in the God of the Bible and different than believing in Harry Potter, the tooth fairy or the Loch Ness monster? They all have the same amount of evidence. Some people believe in them because we encourage children to accept things they are told without evidence.

There's a reason religions are so desperate to run the schools. If they don't, religion will disappear altogether in a few generations. I hope it will anyway as access to the facts is so much easier. The time is well overdue to remove their tax breaks and stop our taxes being given to them to try and indoctrinate future generations.

I'm broadly in agreement with you.

However religion is capable of being a positive force, albeit mostly on an individual basis.

My mums cousin and his wife are committed happy clappy Christians. Proper evangelical types. They "found" God after their two daughters who were both under 8 were diagnosed with a **** nasty genetic disorder that would see them blind deaf and paralysed before they hit puberty. He buried his youngest 2 weeks ago. His eldest wont last the year. Coupled with the fact hes recovered from 3 brain haemorrages and his wife from breast cancer. Twice.

I cant blame the poor **** for seeking a higher purpose.

That's horrible, however I think something that cruel would have the opposite effect on me. I'd be in the how can God be so cruel/allow this to happen school of thought.

[Eames]

ive got no problem with religious people and if they want to live side by side with god thats fine but its the nutters that use it as an excuse for violence,sexual abuse etc that are the problem. people who are religious get put down for believing in god and other religious figures and i think thats wrong because whos right is it to diss what they believe in if they are practicing their religion in peace. im not religious at all although i have prayed before so that in itself can signify that deep down i believe in a higher power but would the world be better without religion? i dont think its a complete yes but i think it would do away with a lot of violence.

People only follow religions because they've been indoctrinated as children.

Why is believing in the God of the Bible and different than believing in Harry Potter, the tooth fairy or the Loch Ness monster? They all have the same amount of evidence. Some people believe in them because we encourage children to accept things they are told without evidence.

There's a reason religions are so desperate to run the schools. If they don't, religion will disappear altogether in a few generations. I hope it will anyway as access to the facts is so much easier. The time is well overdue to remove their tax breaks and stop our taxes being given to them to try and indoctrinate future generations.

I'm broadly in agreement with you.

However religion is capable of being a positive force, albeit mostly on an individual basis.

My mums cousin and his wife are committed happy clappy Christians. Proper evangelical types. They "found" God after their two daughters who were both under 8 were diagnosed with a **** nasty genetic disorder that would see them blind deaf and paralysed before they hit puberty. He buried his youngest 2 weeks ago. His eldest wont last the year. Coupled with the fact hes recovered from 3 brain haemorrages and his wife from breast cancer. Twice.

I cant blame the poor **** for seeking a higher purpose.

That's horrible, however I think something that cruel would have the opposite effect on me. I'd be in the how can God be so cruel/allow this to happen school of thought.

Well yeah.... That would probably be my reaction as well.

[GarethRDR]

Why is believing in the God of the Bible and different than believing in Harry Potter, the tooth fairy or the Loch Ness monster?

Because Nessie is real, damnit.

 

BELIEVE.

[limpid]

 

Why is believing in the God of the Bible and different than believing in Harry Potter, the tooth fairy or the Loch Ness monster?

Because Nessie is real, damnit.

 

BELIEVE.

I like that you've provided accurate and verifiable evidence and would like to subscribe to your newsletter.

[GarethRDR]

Are you telling me that 90's documentary with Ted Danson was not proof enough?