blandy Posted February 27, 2018 Moderator Share Posted February 27, 2018 10 hours ago, darrenm said: Who'da thunk it eh? Anna Soubry kingmaker. Thing is she's painted herself into a corner here. She hates Corbyn. Constantly attacking him. Yet she'll make him PM. 9 hours ago, snowychap said: You appear to be making a couple of giant leaps there. 2 hours ago, darrenm said: Yawn "All in my opinion of course" Thing is, opinion or not as to whether the "absolute boy" will be the next, er, "king" and Labour will be the next Guvmint, there are a couple of huge leaps in the assertion or opinion that Anna Soubry has painted herself into a corner, and that she is somehow JC's Kingmaker. A while ago she proposed an amendment to make the Guvmint's Brexit bill slightly less insane. Subsequently, yer man Corbyn has moved Labour's position (such as it had one) on Brexit to be a bit closer to the likes of Soubry's position and Labour might be whipped to support Soubry's amendment and Labour + the Rest might win a vote on it and as a consequence May might face a leadership challenge which she might lose and there then might be an election and then Labour might get a majority and so Corbyn might end up as pm. Or alternatively something else could happen... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 1 minute ago, blandy said: she is somehow JC's Kingmaker I added in an edit in my post above about this assertion, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 12 hours ago, darrenm said: One day I'm gonna quote everything I said on here and it'll look like the return of John Titor :-) If Corbyn is PM we'll be back to the 70's and you wont have enough electricity to power your Time machine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted February 27, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted February 27, 2018 28 minutes ago, tonyh29 said: If Corbyn is PM we'll be back to the 70's. Bring it on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Wainy316 Posted February 27, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted February 27, 2018 Suits me, we'd have a league title and European cup win to look forward to. 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrenm Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 4 hours ago, blandy said: Thing is, opinion or not as to whether the "absolute boy" will be the next, er, "king" and Labour will be the next Guvmint, there are a couple of huge leaps in the assertion or opinion that Anna Soubry has painted herself into a corner, and that she is somehow JC's Kingmaker. A while ago she proposed an amendment to make the Guvmint's Brexit bill slightly less insane. Subsequently, yer man Corbyn has moved Labour's position (such as it had one) on Brexit to be a bit closer to the likes of Soubry's position and Labour might be whipped to support Soubry's amendment and Labour + the Rest might win a vote on it and as a consequence May might face a leadership challenge which she might lose and there then might be an election and then Labour might get a majority and so Corbyn might end up as pm. Or alternatively something else could happen... Yeah whatever. It was plainly obvious that I'm being colloquial. I didn't even think I needed to qualify it but did, and still got the same people piling in. I thought perhaps some people had changed from their previous disrespectful tone so I unignored to check but, alas, no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dodgyknees Posted February 27, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted February 27, 2018 2 hours ago, tonyh29 said: If Corbyn is PM we'll be back to the 70's and you wont have enough electricity to power your Time machine Great news, we'll be moving on from the current Tory year of 1865, 4 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Dick said: Great news, we'll be moving on from the current Tory year of 1865, A great leap forward? Edited February 27, 2018 by snowychap 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 12 minutes ago, Dick said: Great news, we'll be moving on from the current Tory year of 1865, Mogg isn't PM yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 8 minutes ago, tonyh29 said: Mogg isn't PM yet God help us... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 What kind of absolute idiot hires this piece of shit? What is wrong with these people? I just don't get it. Too racist for makeup company, but no problem for the alleged government in waiting. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-43211136 Quote Transgender model Munroe Bergdorf has become an LGBT adviser to Labour's women and equality minister Dawn Butler. The campaigner says she's "thrilled" to have been asked to help form "fairer and more effective policy change". Ms Butler said she was "proud to stand with those challenging discrimination". But Tory MP Helen Grant says language used by the model - who was sacked by L'Oreal over racism claims - "damages the campaign to promote equality". She's urged the Labour MP to reconsider the appointment. Munroe was the first transgender model to front a campaign for L'Oreal but was dropped in September after claims she posted racist comments online. She wrote a lengthy Facebook post which it's claimed included the comment: "Honestly I don't have energy to talk about the racial violence of white people any more. Yes ALL white people. "Because most of ya'll don't even realise or refuse to acknowledge that your existence, privilege and success as a race is built on the backs, blood and death of people of colour. "Your entire existence is drenched in racism." The comments were later deleted. L'Oreal said her comments were "at odds" with their values and it ended its partnership with her. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 I look forward to her getting some figures wrong on LBC and more deflection that people only dislike her because she’s black and not because she’s a racist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 On 2/27/2018 at 18:58, Davkaus said: What kind of absolute idiot hires this piece of shit? What is wrong with these people? I just don't get it. Too racist for makeup company, but no problem for the alleged government in waiting. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-43211136 Staggering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 20 hours ago, tonyh29 said: I look forward to her getting some figures wrong on LBC and more deflection that people only dislike her because she’s black and not because she’s a racist It’s cool, LBC is somewhere in between Newry and Dundalk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 (edited) Having completed their take over of the NEC , seems momentum are now pushing for Labour to end its affiliations with the Unions ... all bets on whether Tory or Labour party implodes first are now back on Edited March 8, 2018 by tonyh29 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted March 8, 2018 Author Share Posted March 8, 2018 1 hour ago, tonyh29 said: Having completed their take over of the NEC , seems momentum are now pushing for Labour to end its affiliations with the Unions ... all bets on whether Tory or Labour party implodes first are now back on i reckon tories then labour only the greens seem like a united party Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted March 8, 2018 Moderator Share Posted March 8, 2018 18 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: i reckon tories then labour only the greens seem like a united party Until one of them lets one rip and the room clears in every direction 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted March 8, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted March 8, 2018 The Tories inate self preservation instinct and inbuilt desire to toe the line will see them survive. Even when they really do **** up, they just wait until things die down and quietly rearrange things back as they were (see 'nigger in the pile' woman). Labour has diverse membership beliefs and priorities, and end up navel gazing when things are pressured. They also have a fundamentally split party as things stand. A split by either is unlikely but I'd have Labour on shorter odds. The Tories just do scandal and bitchy infighting that brings them down but doesn't divide them. Unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted March 8, 2018 Moderator Share Posted March 8, 2018 2 hours ago, tonyh29 said: Having completed their take over of the NEC , seems momentum are now pushing for Labour to end its affiliations with the Unions ... all bets on whether Tory or Labour party implodes first are now back on Labour possibly disassociating themselves from the Unions is hilarious. that would be the most right-wing position they've ever held on the Unions Can't see it happening myself, too many MPs of all hues in the LP get money from the Unions I think its some sort of shot across the bows than anything with real intent. Possibly to do with the EU as the Unions and the Corbynistas are still miles apart on the issue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted March 8, 2018 Moderator Share Posted March 8, 2018 23 minutes ago, bickster said: Labour possibly disassociating themselves from the Unions is hilarious. that would be the most right-wing position they've ever held on the Unions Can't see it happening myself, too many MPs of all hues in the LP get money from the Unions I think its some sort of shot across the bows than anything with real intent. Possibly to do with the EU as the Unions and the Corbynistas are still miles apart on the issue I can't see it happening either. I know it's only one momentum pillock and they're not all so monumentally unaware, but strewth!! The whole momentum thing has both good and bad parts - it's good that it's shaken up some of the time-serving, buggins turn, cosy stitch up stuff that's always present in any party and replaced it with enthusiasm and zest. It's just a shame that the enthusiasm and zest is too often for anti-semetic, bigoted, self entitled, egotisitcal effwits, with not the feintest clue about, y'know, reality. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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