HanoiVillan Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 Any article analyzing Villa in the ManU game that doesn't have the phrase "Of course lets remember Villa were playing a team that cost hundreds of millions more than them" or similar within it is pretty much meaningless. You can't write a tactical analysis of that game without pointing out the fact that the premier league is not a level playing field. They have vastly more expensive players. Arguing about how Sherwood should or shouldn't have handled that massive gulf is all well and good but the imbalance in the league should be front and center for any self respecting analyst. Of course you can. Its almost as if its super common sense and really doesnt need "x spent more" every. single. article. Its the last thing i want to see written in an analyst post. Its something that i already know and dont need repeating. I would be reading them articles to learn, not to be told something i already know. Otherwise whats the point of it? Quoted for agreement. The writer of the article didn't say 'the only reason Villa lost was because they picked two attackers who were too similar'. He simply commented that that was one of the reasons we looked toothless. It's possible for a team to play well, and to attempt logical tactics, without that team winning the game or bettering a team with far more money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 Finished my first season as Tim Sherwood on PES, I am thrilled to report that it was a resounding success. Languishing in upper-midtable for most of the season, we put together an incredible run in the end to finish 2nd (tied on points with Everton and Utd in 3rd and 4th), but what really pushed us was our goal-scoring prowess. Sherwood managed to get the most out of Gabby who fired us to 2nd place with a Premier League record of 60 goals (62 in all comps, eliminated in the first round of the FA Cup by **** Rotherham), exactly double that of his nearest rival Aguero! Jack Grealish chipped in with a respectable if unspectacular 18 goals and 23 assists. Carles Gil had about 17 assists himself and Ashley Westwood proved why he's nothing more than a squad player with a dull and un-incisive 10 goals and 10 assists. Highlights of the season include Jordan Ayew coming off the bench in the 88th minute to score 2 goals in a crucial 3-2 win over Liverpool to push us into the top 4 and demolishing Arsenal 6-2 after Sanchez (Carlos that is!) got himself sent off. What I'm trying to say is don't sweat it guys, Timmy's got this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 I dont know why but I have a feelingwe will be ok this year, even last season under lambert after first few games I still felt we still struggle. I think considering its a completely new team we have done every well. We although didnt create much, gave United a game. Next couple of game shsould give us an idea of where we will be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexbelowsound Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 (edited) Finished my first season as Tim Sherwood on PES, I am thrilled to report that it was a resounding success. Languishing in upper-midtable for most of the season, we put together an incredible run in the end to finish 2nd (tied on points with Everton and Utd in 3rd and 4th), but what really pushed us was our goal-scoring prowess. Sherwood managed to get the most out of Gabby who fired us to 2nd place with a Premier League record of 60 goals (62 in all comps, eliminated in the first round of the FA Cup by **** Rotherham), exactly double that of his nearest rival Aguero! Jack Grealish chipped in with a respectable if unspectacular 18 goals and 23 assists. Carles Gil had about 17 assists himself and Ashley Westwood proved why he's nothing more than a squad player with a dull and un-incisive 10 goals and 10 assists. Highlights of the season include Jordan Ayew coming off the bench in the 88th minute to score 2 goals in a crucial 3-2 win over Liverpool to push us into the top 4 and demolishing Arsenal 6-2 after Sanchez (Carlos that is!) got himself sent off. What I'm trying to say is don't sweat it guys, Timmy's got this. Languishing in upper-midtable?? That would be a joy for us this season after what we've been through. That's the Tim Sherwood confidence showing through right there though that he would describe that position in such a way. Congrats on your performance Timmy. Edited August 19, 2015 by sexbelowsound Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 Anyone think sherwood will eventually end up as a potential England manager? Definitely has the charisma for it but just needs more experience Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexbelowsound Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 Anyone think sherwood will eventually end up as a potential England manager? Definitely has the charisma for it but just needs more experience Not sure charisma is wanted by the FA......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilS Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 Anyone think sherwood will eventually end up as a potential England manager? Definitely has the charisma for it but just needs more experience If he does well here then I wouldn't be surprised to see him be in the frame for the job at some point, simply because there is a lack of succesful English managers in the game. The important thing is he will need to do well here first, and it is still early days on that front as he hasn't proven anything just yet. The early signs are positive for him though, but the test of a good manager is to build something successful and then repeat success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted August 19, 2015 Moderator Share Posted August 19, 2015 He's too outspoken. The FA need a conformist who'll toe the line. Unless he changes his entire persona then I can't see him ever being a candidate. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 He's too outspoken. The FA need a conformist who'll toe the line. Unless he changes his entire persona then I can't see him ever being a candidate. Happy to agree, he is too outspoken for that job. We have already lost a good manager to that job....so if we have one with such a meaningless flaw.....bully for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 I think he is focusing on moving players out....before he focuses on moving more back in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VILLAMARV Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 He's too outspoken. The FA need a conformist who'll toe the line. Unless he changes his entire persona then I can't see him ever being a candidate. Happy to agree, he is too outspoken for that job. We have already lost a good manager to that job....so if we have one with such a meaningless flaw.....bully for us. Agree, see Clough, Atkinson, Redknapp, Venables, oh no hang on......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nazvfc Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 Anyone think sherwood will eventually end up as a potential England manager? Definitely has the charisma for it but just needs more experience Not sure charisma is wanted by the FA......... Nah but a few stuffed brown paper bags would do the trick! (allegedly) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post VILLAMARV Posted August 19, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted August 19, 2015 Article on Sherwood:tim-sherwood-car-salesman-or-football-philosopher Aston Villa boss Tim Sherwood is often the butt of the joke. A quick scan of social media reveals there is no shortage of people willing the former Blackburn Rovers captain to fail. We are constantly reminded of his latest gilet fashion faux pas, his relative inexperience at managerial level and his tendency to harp on about his win ratio. Looking at the other managers in the Premier League and it is perhaps no surprise Sherwood attracts so much attention – negative or otherwise. He wears his heart on his sleeve like no other top flight boss and his personality is as infectious as it can sometimes be nauseating to his detractors. There are no hidden agendas or grey areas with ‘Tactics Tim’; he says what he thinks and is as honest as the day is long. Indeed his personality is one of his key strengths. Quite how he managed to persuade the likes of Barcelona wonderkid Adama Traore and Micah Richards, who turned down a better deal at Sunderland, to come to Villa Park and join his revolution is anybody’s guess. A clue is perhaps in Traore’s first interview when he said: “The manager has been great to talk to. He has so much passion, energy and confidence. You just know that this transmits to his players. I felt very comfortable talking to him. We will work very well together.” Sherwood is a passionate speaker and is great at selling a vision and a product. He would be a brilliant car salesman and could probably sell ice to the Eskimos. But what else do we know about Sherwood as a manager? And is it too early to be making judgments on which mould he fits? Some would argue Sherwood himself is still trying to deduce that question. What is certain is that Sherwood’s first full season in the managerial hot seat at Villa will tell us a lot about where his career is likely to end up. Such is his big personality; he has initially been cast as a simple, back-to-basics manager who was first inspired by Harry Redknapp’s minimalist approach to tactics. And even in his initial 46 games as a manager, the 46-year-old has been found wanting in the tactics department on more than one occasion. The 6-1 drubbing Villa suffered at Southampton at the end of last season was a particularly bad day at the office. But take away the theatre and the side-show that comes with Sherwood and you find the makings of a very good manager. His motivational presence is unquestionable but it is his deep knowledge of the game and careful, rational thinking which often goes unnoticed. His decision to play to Emmanuel Adebayor’s strengths at Tottenham Hotspur and build the team around him proved to be a stroke of genius with the Togolese striker recapturing some of the best form of his career. The way he set up his Villa side for the 2-1 FA Cup semi-final win over Liverpool in May was also highly impressive. We are often reminded by the man himself but Sherwood’s win ratio when he left Spurs was 50%. Sir Alex Ferguson, the greatest manager for a generation, retired with a win ratio of 58%. Of course that is where the comparison between Sherwood and Sir Alex starts and ends. But what it does show is that the man from Borehamwood has the ability to succeed in this game. To the extent of Sir Alex? That would be a very tall order but only time will tell. When Villa sold its two best players this summer, in Christian Benteke and Fabian Delph, Sherwood looked to be sailing down a certain creek without a paddle. But he has more than steadied the ship and has bought sensibly and with a degree of maturity for a manager so new to the game. When the Traore transfer was first muted, and with Stoke City (or Stokelona as they are now known) also in the running, there were more than a few raised eyebrows across the footballing world. As it now transpires, Traore is a player Sherwood had been monitoring for quite some time. This was no knee-jerk reaction or panic buy. Sherwood is, piece-by-piece, rebuilding this Villa team and the supporters are responding to it with great enthusiasm. The summer of change at Villa Park has also seen many fringe first teamers leave the club and Sherwood, a Premier League title winner himself, has been adamant about the need for a change in mentality. Out with the losers and in with those who buy into his long-term vision. Given Sherwood’s preference for a big man up front, it was disappointing to see him start with the same team against Manchester United as the one which lined up on the opening weekend at Bournemouth. Both Rudy Gestede and Libor Kozak watched on as Villa struggled to make anything stick up top, which inevitably meant the Midlands side invited more pressure on to themselves. But Sherwood has surrounded himself with valuable people, Ray Wilkins for one, and will hopefully learn from these mistakes starting at Crystal Palace on Saturday. With players such as Yohan Cabaye and Yannick Bolasie now at their disposal, Palace in many ways represent where Villa are trying to get to. It is early days for Sherwood but the foundations he is laying at the former European Cup winners seem to be a major step forward from Paul Lambert’s drab reign. Maybe Sherwood is on a mission to prove that beyond his car salesman-like exterior lays a thoughtful, intelligent manager who is able to outwit the best in the game. Do you want to bet against him? 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 He's too outspoken. The FA need a conformist who'll toe the line. Unless he changes his entire persona then I can't see him ever being a candidate. Is he though? I think he is quite arrogant but i think would be popular among the media if he does well here Like an above poster said there isnt many successful English managers these days and we all know how badly it went under Capello and Sven Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted August 19, 2015 Moderator Share Posted August 19, 2015 I don't doubt he'd be popular among the media or the fans but the media and the fans don't pick the manager. Just like Harry Redknapp would have been loved by the media (if not all fans) and he was avoided by the FA for the far safer Woy. They haven't changed in years. They avoided Clough for the same reason. Mentalists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted August 19, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted August 19, 2015 Is the England job still that appealing? I'm sure the prestige of the job is still there and plenty of managers would love the opportunity. But at the same time I can't help but feel Sherwood (and probably a few other managers) would miss the regular work at club level. I can picture Sherwood getting restless at only being in charge for a few games every other month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dn1982 Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 What has he said or done that's arrogant or out spoken? Sherwood is a confident bloke which can be mistook for arrogance but I don't see it. He speaks very well about how you become a good player and having winning habits that's about it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 At the risk of being pointed and screamed at like this: Perhaps talk of him being the next England manager is massively premature. He's got a lot to prove still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted August 19, 2015 Moderator Share Posted August 19, 2015 Absolutely Lexicon, but I think that kind of goes without saying. My point was that short of becoming an unbelievable manager, he's the kind of personality they historically tend to avoid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 I don't think he's that much of a maverick renegade, to be fair. He's not as straight-laced as a Mclaren or a Hodgson but I don't think he's too far removed to be out of the picture due to personality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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