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1 hour ago, chrisp65 said:

Apparently there’s still some confusion over whether they’ve taken out Abu Baker Al Baghdadi or minor UK songster, Olly Murs. 

 

One is a man intent on inflicting pain and misery to the world, the other an international terrorist. 
 

 

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1 hour ago, theboyangel said:

One is a man intent on inflicting pain and misery to the world, the other an international terrorist. 
 

 

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2 hours ago, Mandy Lifeboats said:

 Steve Bruce is the bookies favourite to replace Al-Baghdadi. Neil Warnock is second favourite. 

Think he's too defensive for what they are going for now.

Also think those topless pictures of his might be an issue

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Edit: They also usually have very tactically astute leaders and probably don't believe in dinosaurs.

This is a total non story IMO

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Must be fake news this

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Trump’s Syria Troop Withdrawal Complicated Plans for al-Baghdadi Raid
President Trump’s abrupt decision to pull forces from northern Syria forced the Pentagon to press ahead with a risky night operation that killed the ISIS leader, military officials said.

Fake News of Nu Yoik

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6 hours ago, Dr_Pangloss said:

Washington Post referring to al-Baghdadi as an 'austere religious scholar' in it's obituary for him. Absolute **** words removed.

Seen a few memes on other people

"Adolf Hitler, art enthusiast, dog lover and great orator"

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So apparently both Al Baghdadis "right hand man" and another one who was supposed to become his successor has now been killed.

Great news but I can't help but feel that they've known these guys whereabouts and could have taken then out on plenty of occasions but opted not to for whatever reasons.

Elections coming up and trouble at home.

 

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4 hours ago, sne said:

So apparently both Al Baghdadis "right hand man" and another one who was supposed to become his successor has now been killed.

Great news but I can't help but feel that they've known these guys whereabouts and could have taken then out on plenty of occasions but opted not to for whatever reasons.

Elections coming up and trouble at home.

 

They certainly knew where he was because there are generals who've publically said as much when they said that they had to bring the operation forward, make it less safe for those involved and utilise more manpower at night than they had originally planned, because of what Trump did with the Kurds. How long they'd known is another matter, I suspect not that long. Ironic that it was a "What have they ever done for us" Kurd that informed the US where he was

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On 29/10/2019 at 00:21, Tayls said:

@Awol 

what you got for us dude

There’s lots of debate about the utility of killing off the leadership of terrorist groups, based on the Darwinian process it unleashes. The more competent commanders tend to survive and make organisations even more extreme - almost exactly what happened with the transition from Al Qaeda in Iraq to ISI then ISIS.  That said, I doubt anyone except his mother will miss Baghdadi too much. 
 

However, the rapid culling of senior ISIS figures does also open up the potential for a reunification between ISIS & AQ. The personal animosity between Zawahiri (AQ CEO) & Baghdadi is well documented, but ISIS always revered Bin Laden as the true leader of Jihadi - accusing Zawahiri of deviating from his path. 

With Baghdadi gone it’s at least possible that AQ launches a Mergers & Acquisitions play to re-absorb ISIS into a new super group. That’s a big potential problem for Europe because ISIS has built a substantial network for external operations which AQ would then acquire, in addition to the numerous provinces (Wiliyats) stretching from the Atlantic to the Pacific. 
 

In summary killing Baghdadi doesn’t solve anything, but it is pretty satisfying as a stand alone event. 
 

Kudos to the dog. 

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France again in the center of thing with the teacher getting decapitated for showing a Charlie Hebdo caricature, Macron and Erdogan arguing about Islamic extremism and now today a knifing in a church in Nice with at least 3 dead. One of them a woman who was apparently decapitated. Not sure if it's actually related to ISIS but it's the same driving force.

Edit: Apparently there has also been a knife attack at the French consulate in Jeddah.

Edit 2: And police in Avignon has shot and killed a man who was attacking a police officer with a knife shouting Allahu Akbar

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