Dodgyknees Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 Perfect weekend. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 i hope Newcastle lose tomorrow as well. Would be nice if we could finish above them, especially after Carver's 'funny how things turn out comment' before they played us. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 i hope Newcastle lose tomorrow as well. Would be nice if we could finish above them, especially after Carver's 'funny how things turn out comment' before they played us. Good point. I would like that too. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villatillidie1980 Posted April 12, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted April 12, 2015 I heard a Boggies fan on WM last weekend asking whose position you'd rather be in and how they were by far better placed - not sure he would be so confident after this weekend. I do think we'll be fine, but until is mathematically certain, I won't let myself believe it. UTV 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrenm Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 Is it wrong that I want Ramsey to keep QPR up mostly because he's black? I have little opinion on him generally other than he seems like a nice bloke, but I want to see a black manager have a bit of actual success at the top level. I think it will be good for football generally. Odd that this is still a "thing" in 2015, but it is and we should face it IMO. Probably a bit off topic. We'd have to capitulate big time to go down now. The way we have been playing these last 2 months I can't see it, but I'm not hearing that fat lady sing just yet.Ridiculous comment!Why? Because wanting someone to do better or worse because of their skin colour is a racist comment in itself. If racism is to be kicked out permanently, we need to stop treating black and white like it's a different species. By making comments like this it's actually creating a divide, people should just want 'a manager' to do well whether they're black, white, male or female. Only when everybody really is not making an issue of it then real equality can be achieved. This is the ridiculous comment. I guess all equal opportunities legislation is racist as well then? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 Is it wrong that I want Ramsey to keep QPR up mostly because he's black? I have little opinion on him generally other than he seems like a nice bloke, but I want to see a black manager have a bit of actual success at the top level. I think it will be good for football generally. Odd that this is still a "thing" in 2015, but it is and we should face it IMO. Probably a bit off topic. We'd have to capitulate big time to go down now. The way we have been playing these last 2 months I can't see it, but I'm not hearing that fat lady sing just yet. Ridiculous comment! Why? Because wanting someone to do better or worse because of their skin colour is a racist comment in itself. If racism is to be kicked out permanently, we need to stop treating black and white like it's a different species. By making comments like this it's actually creating a divide, people should just want 'a manager' to do well whether they're black, white, male or female. Only when everybody really is not making an issue of it then real equality can be achieved. This is the ridiculous comment. I guess all equal opportunities legislation is racist as well then? What, you mean the stuff that says that employers can't discriminate on the basis of race? No. Why would it be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaForever1970 Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 Villa are masters of the **** up, we could still easily lose all our remaining games.Not safe until mathematical or some bizarre set of results would have to happen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrenm Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 Is it wrong that I want Ramsey to keep QPR up mostly because he's black? I have little opinion on him generally other than he seems like a nice bloke, but I want to see a black manager have a bit of actual success at the top level. I think it will be good for football generally. Odd that this is still a "thing" in 2015, but it is and we should face it IMO. Probably a bit off topic. We'd have to capitulate big time to go down now. The way we have been playing these last 2 months I can't see it, but I'm not hearing that fat lady sing just yet.Ridiculous comment!Why?Because wanting someone to do better or worse because of their skin colour is a racist comment in itself. If racism is to be kicked out permanently, we need to stop treating black and white like it's a different species. By making comments like this it's actually creating a divide, people should just want 'a manager' to do well whether they're black, white, male or female. Only when everybody really is not making an issue of it then real equality can be achieved.This is the ridiculous comment. I guess all equal opportunities legislation is racist as well then? What, you mean the stuff that says that employers can't discriminate on the basis of race? No. Why would it be? Yep, the stuff that is based on separating people out into groups. By this person's thinking of the utopian ideal of 'no one is ever different and to even think about them differently is racist' means that anything which validates the differentiation e.g. equal opportunities, is implicitly racist. Which is quite obviously bollocks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Rob182 Posted April 12, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted April 12, 2015 I want QPR to go down, not because Ramsey is black, but because he isn't Chinese. There's not enough Chinese managers in the league, so my perfect scenario is that all the white and black managers get relegated one by one. Then we'll have real equality. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7392craig Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 Is it wrong that I want Ramsey to keep QPR up mostly because he's black? I have little opinion on him generally other than he seems like a nice bloke, but I want to see a black manager have a bit of actual success at the top level. I think it will be good for football generally. Odd that this is still a "thing" in 2015, but it is and we should face it IMO. Probably a bit off topic. We'd have to capitulate big time to go down now. The way we have been playing these last 2 months I can't see it, but I'm not hearing that fat lady sing just yet.Ridiculous comment!Why?Because wanting someone to do better or worse because of their skin colour is a racist comment in itself. If racism is to be kicked out permanently, we need to stop treating black and white like it's a different species. By making comments like this it's actually creating a divide, people should just want 'a manager' to do well whether they're black, white, male or female. Only when everybody really is not making an issue of it then real equality can be achieved.This is the ridiculous comment. I guess all equal opportunities legislation is racist as well then?What, you mean the stuff that says that employers can't discriminate on the basis of race? No. Why would it be?Yep, the stuff that is based on separating people out into groups. By this person's thinking of the utopian ideal of 'no one is ever different and to even think about them differently is racist' means that anything which validates the differentiation e.g. equal opportunities, is implicitly racist. Which is quite obviously bollocks. Treating everybody different is racist. Whether people agree with me or not, I see different skin colour as no different as different hair colour. If you want equality, then skin colour needs to be removed as an issue and treated as ridiculous. Can you imagine someone being refused a job because they were ginger? Ridiculous, of course. Start actually treating people the same and not favouring skin colour because of 'issues of the past' and we may actually get somewhere in reaching true equality. "I want him to do well because he's black" is not only insulting to black people, but racist to white people. You really should be ashamed of yourself. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dounavilla Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 As Michael Jackson once said ........" Thriller, Thriller night ....." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Folski Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 Villa are masters of the **** up, we could still easily lose all our remaining games. Not safe until mathematical or some bizarre set of results would have to happen. If we go down at this stage we fully deserve to be relegated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest av1 Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 I'd like QPR and Leicester to go, simply because they are both team's that may spend a few quid next year (not that it's helped them this year) same goes for Sunderland as well really. Sunderland Leicester QPR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 Sunderland? If we're going to survive then we absolutely want them to stay up too. Always an easy 4 points at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodders Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 yes I think we're most likely safe. Other sides won't pick up enough or will take points off each other anyway. Think QPR are bust anyway, Leciester now still have a tough job but they have momentum, and Burnley I think have got the mentality to fight to get enough points. QPR, Sunderland and then Leicester or Hull I think for the chop - although it would be hilarious if Newcastle were pulled into it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacbuddies Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 yes I think we're most likely safe. Other sides won't pick up enough or will take points off each other anyway. Think QPR are bust anyway, Leciester now still have a tough job but they have momentum, and Burnley I think have got the mentality to fight to get enough points. QPR, Sunderland and then Leicester or Hull I think for the chop - although it would be hilarious if Newcastle were pulled into it It would be even more hilarious if Albion were sucked into it after all the crap I read from Albion fans about their wonderful appointment of the dinosaur that is Pullis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PompeyVillan Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 We need a few points yet, but I'm confident we can do it. Our form has picked up and we've got fight in the squad now. An in form Benteke transforms us. Hull have a horrible run in and their form is poor, I think the they're doomed. Otherwise I think it could be anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest av1 Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 Sunderland? If we're going to survive then we absolutely want them to stay up too. Always an easy 4 points at least. Fair enough, I was just thinking that the Burnley's and Hull's of the world are less likely to spend (therefore improve) than QPR, Leicester and Sunderland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arj Guy Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 I don't really care what the other teams do now, I don't think we'll lose again this season. Man City away? I think we'll get at least a draw. I would certainly take that. Can't see it happening though After that display from Man City, maybe we could get something!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 They'll probably try extra hard now though, especially with their Champions league qualification coming into question. Still, we'll still have a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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