Cliffy Biro Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 However i much i find it baffling does it really matter if someone still supports Lambert? If you want to take it out on someone who finds his record acceptable then its Lerner. I think Lerner is very loyal to people, in general, and it's more that and a generally very conservative business approach than anything else that's keeping PL in a job. We can only hope he's beginning to see that nothing will change if nothing changes. The man's scared. The idea that he would deliberately ruin the club is utterly absurd. It's more a lack of understanding football. Who has suggested hes doing it deliberately? Its not that its just he clearly hasn't got what it takes to run a sports team, if he wants to lose hundreds of millions by taking us down then that's his own problem, i wont be there to watch it though. I think he has this unwaivering belief that PL is the right man for the job despite there literally being no evidence to support that idea in nearly 3 years now. He needs to develop a ruthless streak and admit that Lambert has been a mistake, he is going down as one of our worst managers ever already and that's not even a debate that's pretty much fact at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 "Second half though, I couldn't think of a more one-sided game to be honest, and I know when Ashley Westwood had a shot, all the Villa fans were cheering [ironically] to be honest, so it was a great victory." Even Theo Walcott is taking the piss 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 So what was Lambert's mumbling after the game today? Has he done the press conference yet At a guess ( I'd long since switched off) Can't fault the effort today, we regroup and go again. In short he actually said we were shit! Very refreshing from him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 So what was Lambert's mumbling after the game today? Has he done the press conference yet At a guess ( I'd long since switched off) Can't fault the effort today, we regroup and go again. In short he actually said we were shit! Very refreshing from him. Even if this is the case it is far too late, he has been offering up excuses week by week and I do not trust him to get it right. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcowans21 Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 However i much i find it baffling does it really matter if someone still supports Lambert? If you want to take it out on someone who finds his record acceptable then its Lerner. I think Lerner is very loyal to people, in general, and it's more that and a generally very conservative business approach than anything else that's keeping PL in a job. We can only hope he's beginning to see that nothing will change if nothing changes. The man's scared. The idea that he would deliberately ruin the club is utterly absurd. It's more a lack of understanding football. Who has suggested hes doing it deliberately? Its not that its just he clearly hasn't got what it takes to run a sports team, if he wants to lose hundreds of millions by taking us down then that's his own problem, i wont be there to watch it though. I think he has this unwaivering belief that PL is the right man for the job despite there literally being no evidence to support that idea in nearly 3 years now. He needs to develop a ruthless streak and admit that Lambert has been a mistake, he is going down as one of our worst managers ever already and that's not even a debate that's pretty much fact at this point. I think another factor is if he did sack him, it's a few more million he has to pay out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nobler Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 I don't think Lerner will sack Lambert because he doesn't have the belief in himself to pick up the club when Lambert goes. His managerial appointments have been rubbish and although he would have advice around him, he ultimately has to make the final decision and I don't believe he has a clue or the knowledge to bring someone in that could work well with this team. I imagine he's just praying we scrape over the line again and just hope a buyer comes in. I think the Tom Fox interviews are just pr stuff to keep fans' hopes up and have us feeling like there's something bright to hold on to and look forward to. I cannot see how there can be any long term strategy with such a poor manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradarmstrong_ Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 Plenty of managers have held their hands up and admitted they weren't good enough and stepped aside. The problem is neither Lerner of Lambert have any respect for the club and its fans, if they did Lambert wouldn't be here, whether that was by sacking or resignation. Pair of simpletons who have made us a complete laughing stock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarpie Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 I'm almost starting to hope we actually get relegated so Lambert might get fired, and we'd get rid of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntrimBlack Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 I'm almost starting to hope we actually get relegated so Lambert might get fired, and we'd get rid of him. Believe me, you really should not want that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smetrov Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 I'm almost starting to hope we actually get relegated so Lambert might get fired, and we'd get rid of him. Hell be gone next couple of weeks (IMO not ITK) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post markavfc40 Posted February 1, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted February 1, 2015 (edited) I don't really want to focus too much on today as that to me is what Lambert will want the fans to do. It was Arsenal after all and that is what they can do to you etc etc. We played Leicester a couple of weeks ago though who were bottom of the league at the time and, like today, they had enough clear cut chances to have stuck 5 past us as well. Today therefore can't just be swept under the carpet and be simply put down to a lack luster display from us against a very good side. Today was just a poor result and performance amongst a multitude of poor results and performances against varying degrees of opposition. The team today played like it had no backbone. A difficult task was made more difficult as we had zero belief. Absolutely none. No heart. No desire. Not the first time under Lambert that has been the case. We played in a similar fashion against Leicester a couple of weeks ago and played out pretty much the last third of last season as if we couldn't give a shit and lost games not because the other side were better than us but simply because they wanted it more and I find that absolutely unforgivable. The players clearly have a huge responsibility to at the very least put a shift in on the pitch but clearly when too many of them aren't and it frequently happens then that is down to the manager. Sadly I doubt very much Lambert is going anywhere. If he had any spine he would walk and let someone else have a crack at getting something like the best out of what is a very decent squad he has put together. He is half a manger for me. He can spot a player and build a squad but he is absolutely hopeless at setting a team up and getting the best out of players individually and collectively. For this season the job of putting the squad together is done after tomorrow and then it is totally down to getting the best out the players you have. If that is left to Lambert then god help us. Edited February 1, 2015 by markavfc40 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 What the hell happened to Lambert? Pressed on his team's open passing style Lambert becomes loquacious: "It's only good if you're winning, it's no good playing brilliant if you're getting beat. I like football to be played the right way but I'm pretty sure you won't be asking me about that if we've lost nine in a row. The philosophy will always be there to play as well as we can to try to win games. It's great to play fantastic football but fantastic football won't keep us in the league." http://www.theguardian.com/football/2011/aug/12/paul-lambert-norwich-city Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 I'm almost starting to hope we actually get relegated so Lambert might get fired, and we'd get rid of him. Believe me, you really should not want that. We might actually score a goal then though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarpie Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 I'm almost starting to hope we actually get relegated so Lambert might get fired, and we'd get rid of him. Believe me, you really should not want that. Yeah...all the championship teams would be just glamouring to beat us and take our scalp...we'd get massacred in championship. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 I'm almost starting to hope we actually get relegated so Lambert might get fired, and we'd get rid of him. Believe me, you really should not want that. We might actually score a goal then though If we get relegated we may never get up again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntrimBlack Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 Lambert should have been sacked October/November. Instead he has been given a 4 year contract, so in all probability he will not be sacked now. I suspect that it may be too late to sack him now anyway, and we just have to hope that we can avoid relegation again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post StanBalaban Posted February 1, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted February 1, 2015 (edited) Apart from the obvious, something that really bothers me if that we never seem to have any creativity in our set pieces. We know we're going to face a lot of better footballing teams, so you'd think that corners and free kicks would be even more important in our quest to score goals. We all joke that WDFAFC's but when was the last time we saw an inventive short-corner taken? Something straight from the training ground? We don't seem to have any playbook for when we win a throw-in in the opposition's half. In fact, we're actually unlikely to be able to get the ball to one of our own players from a throw-in, let alone fashion a chance. For a team that is painfully lacking in goals, you'd expect to see more fruits from the training ground labour. If we can't get in behind teams, then we need to see how we can get the ball effectively into Benteke from deeper positions. We don't see many shots. We certainly don't see quickly taken free kicks. No one seems switched on. When we can't get goals through open play, we need to have a plan B. If that means taking more shots in the hope that a) they go in, or b ) we get a corner with a host of well rehearsed routines to follow, surely this can only help. Edited February 1, 2015 by StanBalaban 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smetrov Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 I sense a Steve Keane (Blackburn) situation developing - I don't believe Randy will allow that - if only for his own vanity. He will gone next couple of weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 I sense a Steve Keane (Blackburn) situation developing - I don't believe Randy will allow that - if only for his own vanity. He will gone next couple of weeks. I honestly don't think he will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 I still think we will be alright and therefore he won't be sacked, as Lerner will only get rid of him if we go down. There is enough promise in Gil and Sinclair to help provide enough in the attacking third IMO, and the passing game will work in the end. Lets hope for a performance against Chelsea to take into some easier fixtures. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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