BG_Villa_Fan Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 McLeish had roughly the same number of points gained, goals scored, shots on target and possession % as Lambert at Villa. It's a bit hypocritical to have a go at him for his style of play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted August 26, 2014 Moderator Share Posted August 26, 2014 No it isn't. Check out the team sheet in our home game with Spurs under McLeish we had 5 or 6 defenders in the starting line up and Heskey in midfield as we set out to try and get a 0-0 at home. You seem to be confusing results with styles of play, irrespective if the points total of McLeish was the same or similar to that of Lambert that has nothing to do with a judgement of their respective styles of play. There is absolutely nothing hypocritical about being critical of McLeish's style of play unless perhaps you are George Graham. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islingtonclaret Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 No it isn't. Check out the team sheet in our home game with Spurs under McLeish we had 5 or 6 defenders in the starting line up and Heskey in midfield as we set out to try and get a 0-0 at home. You seem to be confusing results with styles of play, irrespective if the points total of McLeish was the same or similar to that of Lambert that has nothing to do with a judgement of their respective styles of play. There is absolutely nothing hypocritical about being critical of McLeish's style of play unless perhaps you are George Graham. I will always remember this game. Lambert's stats are probably around the same win and lose percentages as McLeish, but my god Lambert has never put out a lineup like at Villa Park that day. Hutton and Heskey on midfield wings was it? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted August 26, 2014 Moderator Share Posted August 26, 2014 I will always remember this game. Lambert's stats are probably around the same win and lose percentages as McLeish, but my god Lambert has never put out a lineup like at Villa Park that day. Hutton and Heskey on midfield wings was it? Something along those lines, it was an utter disgrace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArteSuave Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 Lambert's stats are probably around the same win and lose percentages as McLeish McLeish win percentage: 21% Lambert win percentage: 32% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SikhInTrinity Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 I will always remember this game. Lambert's stats are probably around the same win and lose percentages as McLeish, but my god Lambert has never put out a lineup like at Villa Park that day. Hutton and Heskey on midfield wings was it? Something along those lines, it was an utter disgrace. Spurs missed a bagful that night. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2064424/Tottenham-2-Aston-Villa-0-Emmanuel-Adebayor-double-sends-Spurs-third.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 The infamous X1 against Spurs in 2011: Given, Hutton, Warnock, Dunne, Collins, Cuellar (Bannan 63), Petrov, Herd (Delph 87), Bent, Agbonlahor, Heskey McLeish played Hutton as a right midfielder. Heskey played on the other wing. Utterly mind boggling in every way. Say what you will about Lambert but he'd never pick so many defenders and play people out of position like that. Still amazed we were not relegated. The team that year was abysmal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 (edited) Still amazed we were not relegated. This. McLeish's only "tactic" seemed to be to try to draw every game (hopefully 0-0), get 38 points and hope that was enough. Terrible, Terrible manager. Terrible. Edited August 26, 2014 by villa89 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 Didn't Lambert field six defenders in a game? He had Joe Bennett on the left wing. Yes McLeish did it more but Lambert has played negative at times as well! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 Didn't Lambert field six defenders in a game? He had Joe Bennett on the left wing. Yes McLeish did it more but Lambert has played negative at times as well! but its not negative when they include Baker and Bennett. Its encouraging the other team to attack 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SikhInTrinity Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 (edited) Didn't Lambert field six defenders in a game? He had Joe Bennett on the left wing. Yes McLeish did it more but Lambert has played negative at times as well! Joe Bennett has played left wing as has Bertrand. Hutton was never a RM, McLeish even stated after he played Cuellar and Hutton to stop Bale. Edited August 26, 2014 by SikhInTrinity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 McLeish had roughly the same number of points gained, goals scored, shots on target and possession % as Lambert at Villa. It's a bit hypocritical to have a go at him for his style of play. This is a perfect example of why stats don't tell the full story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 Maybe when Lambert first arrived he tried too hard to be the Anti-Mcleish. We seem to be getting the balance right now though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islingtonclaret Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 Lambert's stats are probably around the same win and lose percentages as McLeish McLeish win percentage: 21% Lambert win percentage: 32% I'm off a bit then. Lambert has been in charge of some shocking games, but still this man was the worst manager I have in living memory. Like a poor man's George Graham. Graham wanted to win 1-0 by scoring then parking the bus. McLeish didn't even want that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted August 26, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted August 26, 2014 (edited) Didn't Lambert field six defenders in a game? He had Joe Bennett on the left wing. Yes McLeish did it more but Lambert has played negative at times as well! Joe Bennett has played left wing as has Bertrand. Hutton was never a RM, McLeish even stated after he played Cuellar and Hutton to stop Bale. Which was a terrible terrible idea. He only thing I've ever written in terms of "articles" for VT was a report on that match, because it was so obvious how badly we'd set up. I might try and find it actually if it's still on here Edit: Here it is One of the worst games I've ever seen. Lambert's had some stinkers, but none as bad as that. Spurs could have scored however many they wanted that night. Edited August 26, 2014 by Stevo985 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 I don't remember Lambert been given the funds to hand out 5 year £50k a week deals either. So Mcleish was a nice guy, who cares. **** him, **** his transfer policy, and **** his stupid grin, the ginger word removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 Just announced as new Scotland manager until 2020. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat Kendrick's Dentist Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 Horrendous manager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 God help them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 8 minutes ago, villa89 said: God help them. Don't matter who manages them it's a poisoned chalice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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