StefanAVFC Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 Got you. Not sure how you'd look at YouTube clips for a physio mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 26 minutes ago, StefanAVFC said: Got you. Not sure how you'd look at YouTube clips for a physio mind https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cq0sThI6wVQ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KHV Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KHV Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 12 minutes ago, Richard said: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cq0sThI6wVQ beat me to it !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 Which ever way we've done things. It's been a disaster. Everyone paid in the summer to do specific jobs has failed miserably so far. Blame Sherwood or fox it doesn't matter. As a team, they're failed and cemented this club to the championship. Some can argue that it's how other clubs do it, the fact no other club is as bad as us makes that point completely irrelevant. What we've tried to do sounds good. But that's Aston Villa under Lerner. It usually sounds good but ends up being a disaster. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 The mood music we've been getting since Fox arrived is that we are assembling a group of "development players" who will form the core of our squad no matter who is the manager, i.e. break out of the cycle of managers assembling their own squads, which then have to be dismantled and reassembled once the manager fails and is sacked. Since Fox is now on his third manager, I think the buck for the quality and adequacy of the squad definitely stops with him. I wonder if Sherwood, being a relatively new and inexperienced manager, allowed himself to be browbeaten into accepting players he didn't really rate? It seems like Garde will maybe be a bit more assertive about who he will accept in the squad. Let's hope so because on the evidence of this season so far, the buying we did in the summer was pretty much a disaster. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted December 22, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted December 22, 2015 1 hour ago, DCJonah said: Blame Sherwood AND fox is the right answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted December 22, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted December 22, 2015 4 hours ago, blandy said: I find it difficult to believe that Sherwood actually watched all the players that were signed. Not so long ago any manager signing a player in the way described would be thought to be taking a massive risk. Then Sherwood had the opportunity to veto those players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 I find it difficult to believe that Sherwood actually watched all the players that were signed. Not so long ago any manager signing a player in the way described would be thought to be taking a massive risk. Then Sherwood had the opportunity to veto those players. I doubt very much it was as simple as that, or that Sherwood had the absolute right of veto over any player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted December 22, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted December 22, 2015 11 minutes ago, briny_ear said: I doubt very much it was as simple as that, or that Sherwood had the absolute right of veto over any player. According to anyone involved, including Sherwood, he did. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 1 hour ago, briny_ear said: The mood music we've been getting since Fox arrived is that we are assembling a group of "development players" who will form the core of our squad no matter who is the manager, i.e. break out of the cycle of managers assembling their own squads, which then have to be dismantled and reassembled once the manager fails and is sacked. Since Fox is now on his third manager, I think the buck for the quality and adequacy of the squad definitely stops with him. I wonder if Sherwood, being a relatively new and inexperienced manager, allowed himself to be browbeaten into accepting players he didn't really rate? It seems like Garde will maybe be a bit more assertive about who he will accept in the squad. Let's hope so because on the evidence of this season so far, the buying we did in the summer was pretty much a disaster. Maybe Garde has the benefit of Sherwoods hindsight....its tight knit is football, I'll bet Garde knows all the "warts and all" of Sherwoods short reign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 I doubt very much it was as simple as that, or that Sherwood had the absolute right of veto over any player. According to anyone involved, including Sherwood, he did. Well, the quote discussed earlier there was never any suggestion that we were going to get a player that our manager wasn’t supportive of. doesn't sound like a straightforward veto to me. It sounds like slippery management-speak blah. But it's all a question of interpretation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KHV Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 16 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: According to anyone involved, including Sherwood, he did. Fox did say a list of alternatives were provided, I bet the rest the rest of that list would be interesting reading if the "committee" decided the players we got were the best options. I wonder who they decided against when they made a list of alternative players I would imagine the like of Adebayor, Berbatov, Cambiasso, Townsend, Lennon etc were never really on due to wages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted December 22, 2015 Moderator Share Posted December 22, 2015 32 minutes ago, KHV said: I would imagine the like of Adebayor, Berbatov, Cambiasso, Townsend, Lennon etc were never really on due to wages. Some people might wonder whether, with the club having spent the last few seasons struggling down the wrong end of the table, those type of players (or their agents) might want clauses in deals, such that if we were to go down, they could do one for next to no money. You couldn't really blame them. But from the club's point of view, that would be a continuation of the wastefulness of transfer fees that started under MO'N. Just sayin' like. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted December 22, 2015 Moderator Share Posted December 22, 2015 3 hours ago, StefanAVFC said: ... Almstadt has nothing to do with player recruitment. How many times. He is responsible for handling contracts and scouting reports, so is heavily involved in player recruitment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 Didn't Fox himself say that he had no influence or involvement? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KHV Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 (edited) 5 minutes ago, StefanAVFC said: Didn't Fox himself say that he had no influence or involvement? He said he had no direct involvement, whatever that means. Probably contracts and handling scouting reports whatever that involves? Edited December 22, 2015 by KHV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted December 22, 2015 Moderator Share Posted December 22, 2015 I think Fox was saying he (Almstadt) didn't decide upon the players. Not that he wasn't involved in the transfer process (which as sporting director he most definitely is). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 (edited) Quote Tom also clarified the role that Hendrik Almstadt plays at the club. There seems to be some confusion in the press as to what his Sporting Director role entails. Tom explained that he has no responsibility for player acquisitions and that he performs a role here that is very similar to that which he did at Arsenal. Essentially, Hendrik is there to manage the logistics of the things that support the playing squad. By way of example, he cited the manager identifying an issue with the medical team. It would then be Hendrik’s job to look into and resolve that issue. From AVFT website. Logistics of the playing staff. Edited December 22, 2015 by StefanAVFC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 (edited) 48 minutes ago, StefanAVFC said: From AVFT website. Logistics of the playing staff. God knows what that waffle means but I suspect he does have some input in transfers. Sounds like politician mumbo jumbo to add spin In my opinion only people that should have a say on the signings should be remi garde and his chosen scouts. Fox, Reilly and that other clown should only do the money side of things. Edited December 22, 2015 by Demitri_C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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