TrentVilla Posted June 3, 2014 Author Moderator Share Posted June 3, 2014 Yep for a season and then went downhill fast with both teams you mention. Hardly an endorsement of managerial ability. Went down hill fast? Because a promoted side were in the relegation zone. Come on fella. You've made a statement shown to be inaccurate, stop desperately trying to force events to fit your predetermined opinion. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaggy Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 I'm a little confused. Does a manager not help to coach his team while on the training pitch from time to time or at the very least make the odd suggestion in how to play? If not then what do they get paid for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted June 3, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted June 3, 2014 I'm a little confused. Does a manager not help to coach his team while on the training pitch from time to time or at the very least make the odd suggestion in how to play? If not then what do they get paid for?yep. What's your point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted June 3, 2014 Author Moderator Share Posted June 3, 2014 I'm a little confused. Does a manager not help to coach his team while on the training pitch from time to time or at the very least make the odd suggestion in how to play? If not then what do they get paid for? yep. What's your point? And why is it in this thread about the future assistant manager of the club? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewiek2 Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 After much consideration, concerns, and the assumption that Siralex didn't recommend him, then I reckon it's a good appointment. After recommending O'Dreary, The Djemba twins and McUseless I accept someone NOT recommended by the p*ssed up jock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaggy Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Yep for a season and then went downhill fast with both teams you mention. Hardly an endorsement of managerial ability. Went down hill fast? Because a promoted side were in the relegation zone. Come on fella. You've made a statement shown to be inaccurate, stop desperately trying to force events to fit your predetermined opinion. I'm not Trenty. Just doing a little googling as per instructed and reporting what i've found which confirmed my former post to be incorrect so there's no need for me to force anything other than to report that he did leave Sunderland when they were in the relegation zone and he was sacked by Ipswich after getting them to 19th in the championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted June 3, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted June 3, 2014 We all knew that. But thanks anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amo69 Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 (edited) Bloody hell so much debate over our potential number two just because he is famous. Whoever cared about a number two before?!? I blame Lerner.Well, being as though it was Culverhouse and Karsa that took the training sessions and some claiming they actually picked the team too, i would say it's pretty important. That's why people care. Really? So what does Lambert actually do?Perhaps you will find the answer in the thread all about him, this isn't it. Surely the question is relevant so we can determine what Keane's role will be if fans feel the previous assistants did so much? Anyway whoever will end up being number 2 will be the best from a number of potential candidates surely. Best cv, interview etc. Edited June 3, 2014 by Amo69 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaggy Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 I'm a little confused. Does a manager not help to coach his team while on the training pitch from time to time or at the very least make the odd suggestion in how to play? If not then what do they get paid for? yep. What's your point? I'm a little confused. Does a manager not help to coach his team while on the training pitch from time to time or at the very least make the odd suggestion in how to play? If not then what do they get paid for? yep. What's your point? And why is it in this thread about the future assistant manager of the club? I would have thought the point would have been obvious but obviously not. We are talking about the merits of Roy Keane coming in as a coach/number two/motivator. I asked the question what does a manager do? Does a manager have any influence on the training pitch? If he does then a manager should also be judged on his coaching ability to get the team playing well. Keane has had minimal success as a manager so why would he suddenly become a good coach or motivator when he hasn't consistently been that elsewhere through being a manager. If you're telling me that Keane has had no input at all into coaching his other teams to play a system of his choice then fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 I thought Roy Keane was both a great footballer and an utter word removed. I'm not sure what part of Mr Keane he will, on a part time basis, transmit to our (pretty poor) squad. I wish any appointment well. This seems a stupid gamble (like McLeish's managerial appointment) - what level of abuse will the club get if things don't go well? Daft stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KHV Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 I thought Roy Keane was both a great footballer and an utter word removed. I'm not sure what part of Mr Keane he will, on a part time basis, transmit to our (pretty poor) squad. I wish any appointment well. This seems a stupid gamble (like McLeish's managerial appointment) - what level of abuse will the club get if things don't go well? Daft stuff. It's not the clubs appointment. This is Lamberts choice 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcowans21 Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Keano, there's only one Keano, there's only one Keano, there's only one Keano 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaggy Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 We all knew that. But thanks anyway. Alls good and no need for the sarky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcowans21 Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Confirmed on Sky Sports! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted June 3, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted June 3, 2014 I'm a little confused. Does a manager not help to coach his team while on the training pitch from time to time or at the very least make the odd suggestion in how to play? If not then what do they get paid for?yep. What's your point? I'm a little confused. Does a manager not help to coach his team while on the training pitch from time to time or at the very least make the odd suggestion in how to play? If not then what do they get paid for?yep. What's your point? And why is it in this thread about the future assistant manager of the club? I would have thought the point would have been obvious but obviously not. We are talking about the merits of Roy Keane coming in as a coach/number two/motivator. I asked the question what does a manager do? Does a manager have any influence on the training pitch? If he does then a manager should also be judged on his coaching ability to get the team playing well. Keane has had minimal success as a manager so why would he suddenly become a good coach or motivator when he hasn't consistently been that elsewhere through being a manager. If you're telling me that Keane has had no input at all into coaching his other teams to play a system of his choice then fine. I wasn't. I was simply replying to you saying he had never improved a team. There are countless examples of good assistants being crap managers and vice versa. There is quite clearly a difference in the jobs, so in my opinion, using a managerial record to predict how good someone will be as an assistant is extremely limited at best, especially a managerial career that is so short thus far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 I thought Roy Keane was both a great footballer and an utter word removed. I'm not sure what part of Mr Keane he will, on a part time basis, transmit to our (pretty poor) squad. I wish any appointment well. This seems a stupid gamble (like McLeish's managerial appointment) - what level of abuse will the club get if things don't go well? Daft stuff. It's not the clubs appointment. This is Lamberts choice And who does Lambert work for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 It's not the clubs appointment. This is Lamberts choiceOf course it's the club's appointment.It may well be Lambert's choice but it is a club appointment.Not sure what your point is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Confirmed on Sky Sports! No it isn't? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smetrov Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Confirmed on Sky Sports! What is ? That we are interested in hiring keane......or its done ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcowans21 Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 (edited) Confirmed on Sky Sports! What is ? That we are interested in hiring keane......or its done ? Sorry, someone shouted upstairs to me he had agreed to come to Villa. Think they got their wires crossed. Edited June 3, 2014 by sidcowans21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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