Xann Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 12 minutes ago, Brumerican said: For sure . The universe is a recycling toroidal field and nothing ever "dies" it just transforms. The hydrogen in our atoms was created at the big bang and could have passed through millions of humans before it became part of you. Heh, steady. It's still a guess We think we've got an in pipe, is there an out pipe? Could there be some process inbetween? Do we even have the potential to fundamentally understand what's going on? Spoiler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumerican Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 Just now, Xann said: Heh, steady. It's still a guess We think we've got an in pipe, is there an out pipe? Could there be some process inbetween? Do we even have the potential to fundamentally understand what's going on? Reveal hidden contents Kinda revealing that the two singularities we cant explain are polar opposites of each other isn't it. Big bangs breathe out , Blackholes breathe in. Everything from the micro to the macro is cyclical and fractally repeating as I'm sure a man with your avatar is well aware. As for us having the potential to understand it all ? I think so yes as in a few thousand years our descendants will view us as a tiny notch above cavemen. Also eternity is quite long. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted July 12, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted July 12, 2022 23 minutes ago, Brumerican said: Kinda revealing that the two singularities we cant explain are polar opposites of each other isn't it. Foundation and Second Foundation. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumerican Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 The Simpsons is rarely wrong. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumerican Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 10 minutes ago, mjmooney said: Foundation and Second Foundation. Our Rob or Russ ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumerican Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 Alter reality by thinking it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 The more we see and learn, the more impressive God’s further revealed plan becomes. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
limpid Posted July 12, 2022 Administrator Share Posted July 12, 2022 3 hours ago, chrisp65 said: But that might require that matter to have moved at faster than the speed of light? Maybe? Or space expanding at faster than the speed of light. The universe grew to around 600m light years in the first 17 seconds. 3 hours ago, Brumerican said: For sure . The universe is a recycling toroidal field and nothing ever "dies" it just transforms. The hydrogen in our atoms was created at the big bang and could have passed through millions of humans before it became part of you. Sort of. Almost all hydrogen was created in the baryonic epoch up until the universe was 17 seconds old. After this the universe was too cold for fusion to continue to form atoms. 3 hours ago, Xann said: Then the contents may get swallowed up by collapsed stars and farted out elsewhere, to start all over again? Could it be possible to see the same matter twice? The universe is optimised to form black holes. These are not holes and they do not "fart" anything out but Hawking radiation, by which they dissipate as energy until the heat death of the universe. 2 hours ago, Brumerican said: Kinda revealing that the two singularities we cant explain are polar opposites of each other isn't it. Big bangs breathe out , Blackholes breathe in. Everything from the micro to the macro is cyclical and fractally repeating as I'm sure a man with your avatar is well aware. The big bang didn't create anything. It is the misnomer given to the expansion phase of the early universe. The universe already existed before it took place. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumerican Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 Just now, limpid said: . Sort of. Almost all hydrogen was created in the baryonic epoch up until the universe was 17 seconds old. After this the universe was too cold for fusion to continue to form atoms. The universe is optimised to form black holes. These are not holes and they do not "fart" anything out but Hawking radiation, by which they dissipate as energy until the heat death of the universe. The big bang didn't create anything. It is the misnomer given to the expansion phase of the early universe. The universe already existed before it took place. I didn't think that 17 seconds made any difference to my point in that hydrogen is as old as this current cycle and is recycled over and over. I know black holes don't fart things out , if anything I said they breathe in (metaphorically). Nobody is sure about what happens in the centre but plenty of great scientists think the information is preserved somehow. Leonard Susskind springs to mind straight away. I agree the big bang didn't create anything either . I have been banging the infinitely cyclical drum for trillions of years now. I agree with everything you said more or less except I think there will be more developments in black hole theory as science continues to update. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouUnastanFren Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 Reading through the start of this thread I didn't notice its age at first and my suspicion wasn't raised after seeing that there was predictions of fusion ignition being less than two years away. Turns out the thread is 8 years old and fusion ignition is just going to be perpetually two years away for ever. Kind of disheartening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, YouUnastanFren said: Turns out the thread is 8 years old and fusion ignition is just going to be perpetually two years away for ever. 'I'm confident within the next 3 to 4 years we will have a fully functioning fusion reactor which will eventually resolve mankinds energy needs' said every fusion scientist ever. Edited July 12, 2022 by villa89 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumerican Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 6 minutes ago, villa89 said: 'I'm confident within the next 3 to 4 years we will have a fully functioning fusion reactor which will eventually resolve mankinds energy needs' said every fusion scientist ever. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumerican Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 The confirmation of Yondu's Ravager funeral wasn't on my James Webb wish list but it's still cool to know it definitely happened. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumerican Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 4 hours ago, chrisp65 said: The more we see and learn, the more impressive God’s further revealed plan becomes. They spent 10 billion years watching billions of galaxies rise and fall before they even got around to our star system . Then there's another 3 billion years or so of faffing about with millions of now extinct lifeforms before we rock up. Doesn't seem like much of a plan but more of an hourly rate scam from a cowboy builder. Zeus would have knocked it out in a week. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted July 13, 2022 Moderator Share Posted July 13, 2022 17 hours ago, Xann said: Then the contents may get swallowed up by collapsed stars and farted out elsewhere, to start all over again? Could it be possible to see the same matter twice? ITV4, Dave. Oh, and seeing galaxies merge, kind of, is pretty wow. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rds1983 Posted July 14, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted July 14, 2022 On 12/07/2022 at 16:02, Brumerican said: The hydrogen in our atoms was created at the big bang and could have passed through millions of humans before it became part of you. As someone who lives with a very flatulent 4 year old, I can guarantee that there's plenty of hydrogen that has passed through other people before reaching me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumerican Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 If you thought the JWT images were impressive then have a look at my photo of last night's super moon. The level of detail is incredible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bielesibub Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 2 minutes ago, Brumerican said: If you thought the JWT images were impressive then have a look at my photo of last night's super moon. The level of detail is incredible. did you take it with a DynaTAC 8000x? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumerican Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 Just now, bielesibub said: did you take it with a DynaTAC 8000x? A sausage roll and a prism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bielesibub Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 Just now, Brumerican said: A sausage roll and a prism. A cunning invention, indeed. <insert Blackadder / Baldrick || Lord Percy> picture here.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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