coda Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Lambert out still for me. Thanks for the update. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MessiWillSignForVilla Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 (edited) Anyone know how many points off the bottom of the league we were at this point last season? 5, but we were 18th, had -25 goal difference and had 4 points less than we currently do. EDIT: well technically that's at the same date after 22 games, after 21 games we were 6 points above and in 17th, but the rest still applies Edited January 14, 2014 by MessiWillSignForVilla Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romavillan Posted January 14, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted January 14, 2014 (edited) To be fair, we're on the same amount of points as we had last year at this point. The teams are just so, so much worse this time around. Anyone know how many points off the bottom of the league we were at this point last season? Actually, we have four more points We were 5 points off the bottom, in the bottom 3, and looking very lost indeed. http://www.statto.com/football/stats/england/premier-league/2012-2013/table/2013-01-13 Edited January 14, 2014 by romavillan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_John_10 Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 I guess that shows the bottom half looks weaker this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ermie123 Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 I love AVFC, but what i cannot stand is the no show owner, (who wont even speak), the people that manage and coach the players at the club (what do they do for their money) and the players (not all, but the ones do not seem to have any fight in them, they know who they are), they just don't appear to be able to get the basics right and i thought they could all play football!!!!!!!!!!! For God's sake why oh why can this team not go out on the pitch with a winning mentality, its completely beyond me if i went to work with their mentality i would be sacked!!! (I'm a nurse by the way). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacbuddies Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 To be fair, we're on the same amount of points as we had last year at this point. The teams are just so, so much worse this time around. Anyone know how many points off the bottom of the league we were at this point last season? Actually, we have one more point We were 5 points off the bottom, in the bottom 3, and looking very lost indeed. http://www.statto.com/football/stats/england/premier-league/2012-2013/table/2013-01-13 Thank god for that extra point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Anyone know how many points off the bottom of the league we were at this point last season? We was actually on 20 points (19th) 4 points off bottom of the league QPR. Sunderland were 11th on 29 points. 23 points last season would have got us to 16th 3 points of relegation zone. So to simplifie, we are only doing better cause other teams are much worst this season, so fact is no real improvement for Lambert im afraid! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MessiWillSignForVilla Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 I guess that shows the bottom half looks weaker this year. Maybe, or the top half are better. At the same point, Utd were 7 points clear of City, who were 6 points clear of Spurs. 9th was only 11 points ahead of 18th, whereas this year 9th are 7 points ahead of 10th. This year 6th are only 8 points behind top, last year, 18. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_John_10 Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Which kind of explains how we can be 11th playing so badly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MessiWillSignForVilla Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 (edited) Anyone know how many points off the bottom of the league we were at this point last season? We was actually on 20 points (19th) 4 points off bottom of the league QPR. Sunderland were 11th on 29 points. 23 points last season would have got us to 16th 3 points of relegation zone. So to simplifie, we are only doing better cause other teams are much worst this season, so fact is no real improvement for Lambert im afraid! You've gone about 3 games ahead of this point last season. Edited January 14, 2014 by MessiWillSignForVilla Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacbuddies Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 It really doesn't matter about how many points we are off bottom of the league. The relegation zone is the relegation zone and whether a team finishes 18th, 19th or 20th is neither here nor there. So technically we are currently 5 points off a relegation place which is where we were last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romavillan Posted January 14, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted January 14, 2014 (edited) To be fair, we're on the same amount of points as we had last year at this point. The teams are just so, so much worse this time around. Anyone know how many points off the bottom of the league we were at this point last season? Actually, we have one more point We were 5 points off the bottom, in the bottom 3, and looking very lost indeed. http://www.statto.com/football/stats/england/premier-league/2012-2013/table/2013-01-13 Thank god for that extra point. soz, 4 points, ballsed that up royally, have edited it now (and we'd played a game more, beat or draw with Liverpool and it gets better...) Edited January 14, 2014 by romavillan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laursen&Mellberg Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 So who could we possibly get in as a replacement? Lambert should be given till the end of the season and if we finish anywhere near where we currently stand in the table then he should be given another season. And yes, I am playing the stability card. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MessiWillSignForVilla Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 It really doesn't matter about how many points we are off bottom of the league. The relegation zone is the relegation zone and whether a team finishes 18th, 19th or 20th is neither here nor there. So technically we are currently 5 points off a relegation place which is where we were last season. Well no, we were either 1 point above the relegation zone or actually in it depending whether you look at after game 21 or game 22. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MessiWillSignForVilla Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 So who could we possibly get in as a replacement? Lambert should be given till the end of the season and if we finish anywhere near where we currently stand in the table then he should be given another season. And yes, I am playing the stability card. This is my view. Considering Lambert was our 4th manager (6th if you include McAllister and the one who was caretaker before, can't remember his name) in 4 seasons. We need some stability as constantly chopping and changing won't help. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risso Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Keeping a poor manager won't help either. He isn't magically going to learn to coach in a new style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 So who could we possibly get in as a replacement? Lambert should be given till the end of the season and if we finish anywhere near where we currently stand in the table then he should be given another season. And yes, I am playing the stability card. This is my view. Considering Lambert was our 4th manager (6th if you include McAllister and the one who was caretaker before, can't remember his name) in 4 seasons. We need some stability as constantly chopping and changing won't help. Ideally. AVFC should get a manager scout out in Europe now and maybe by the end of the season we will have a quality European manager who knows his arse from his elbow and be a bit more of a tactician. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwan Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 In all honesty, the manager won't change much if the level of investment and wages remain the same. We could look prettier like Wigan but it still gets you relegated 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MessiWillSignForVilla Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Keeping a poor manager won't help either. He isn't magically going to learn to coach in a new style. But if we finish higher than last season (i think we will finish about where we are), then we have improved and why sack a manager for improving? Regardless of what you think of his abilities of a manager it makes us a very unattractive prospect for any manager if we sack someone when they have done better than the season before. Just to clarify, I'm not on about the style of play or anything like that, just league position, which at the end of the day is all anyone really cares about in football, other than personal glory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacbuddies Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 (edited) Keeping a poor manager won't help either. He isn't magically going to learn to coach in a new style. But if we finish higher than last season (i think we will finish about where we are), then we have improved and why sack a manager for improving? Regardless of what you think of his abilities of a manager it makes us a very unattractive prospect for any manager if we sack someone when they have done better than the season before. Just to clarify, I'm not on about the style of play or anything like that, just league position, which at the end of the day is all anyone really cares about in football, other than personal glory. Don't let Roman Abramovich hear you say that! Edited January 14, 2014 by pacbuddies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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