villa4europe Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 think I did the research (google maps) in to it a few years back cos a Newcastle fan was pissing me off, after sunderland the next closest to them is a Manchester club 2hrs 30mins away just looking at it quickly now 14 premier league clubs are with 2hrs 30mins of us (only Sunderland, Newcastle, Norwich, Hull, Southampton are further) the region leaks fans like a sieve that's one of the many reasons I that this argument about numbers at home games as judging the size of a club, I think Newcastle fans would quite honestly claim to be in the top 5 clubs in england Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRS-T Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 Dudley - largest town in England never to have had a league football club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RunRickyRun Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 The biggest European club not to play in the Champions League...............Aston Villa ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voinjama Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 That was the european cup, not the champions league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NormandyVillan Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 The 2 Bristol clubs. One of the biggest cities in England and they've never even been in the top flight. That's a remarkable 'achievement' over 130 & 119 years (Rovers & City respectively). Not true. Bristol City were in the First Division from 1976 to 1980. I remember seeing us play them and being slightly disappointed we only won 3-1 after beating Arsenal 5-1 three days earlier. Those were the days... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcTheObsession Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 Leeds United for me. Massive fanbase, bigger than Newcastle I'd say. Great history and yet not only are they not competing to win trophies nowadays, they have not even been in the top flight for 10 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villaguy Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 Leeds United for me. Massive fanbase, bigger than Newcastle I'd say. Great history and yet not only are they not competing to win trophies nowadays, they have not even been in the top flight for 10 years. Definitely, Leeds is the fourth biggest city, they should be much better off in footballing terms than they are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rev Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 But at least with Leeds we all know why they are where they are. All of their wounds are self inflicted, just ask Seth Johnson. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovers13 Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 But at least with Leeds we all know why they are where they are. All of their wounds are self inflicted, just ask Seth Johnson. Isn't self inflicted wounds what makes a club underachieving Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leviramsey Posted October 30, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted October 30, 2013 (edited) Berlin must be the biggest underachieving city. As capital of a very successful footballing nation like Germany, none of it's teams have ever had a sniff.Well, Berlin has only been part of Germany for about 20 years*, so give them time...*: at least in the Bundesliga era Edited October 30, 2013 by leviramsey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 but Hertha played in the original Bundesliga Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leviramsey Posted October 30, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted October 30, 2013 But Berlin wasn't technically part of Germany (much less its capital) from the end of the war until the early 1990s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 (edited) Bristol City. It is the 6th biggest city in England, and both the football teams have a combined total of 4 years in the top flight. Edit sorry I think City had a few seasons in the top flight in the early 1900s but only 4 since. If Landsown ever sorts that club out with a new ground and they got into the prem, they would be getting 25,000 easily. The potential catchment area is most of the the entire south west of England. But they are in league one and Rovers are in league two. Useless. It just doesnt seem a real sporty city, it is just too laid back! The rugby team is crap as well and Gloucestershire CC have not been competitive for years. So I would go for Bristol. Edited October 30, 2013 by The Fun Factory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rev Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 But Berlin wasn't technically part of Germany (much less its capital) from the end of the war until the early 1990s And I think it is safe to say the people of Berlin had more important things to worry about between 1945 and 1990. I'd imagine it was a major problem attracting players to the city too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarewsEyebrowDesigner Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 Shamrock Rovers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 Shamrock Rovers. meh Bohs are the bigger club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted October 30, 2013 Moderator Share Posted October 30, 2013 You'll have to define 'recent times' for me. And I think it's unfair to cite Leeds. Under-achieving, to me, implies that there have been no speed bumps along the way and during the course of being run as a normal club someone has achieved sod all. Leeds were in the semi-final of the Champions League and Ridsdale's catastrophic running of the club means they're only now beginning to recover. It was precisely because they were achieving that their fall from grace was so epic. Shamrock Rovers. meh Bohs are the bigger mess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 thats sadly very true though still 1 of only 2 teams never relegated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MessiWillSignForVilla Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 Leeds United for me. Massive fanbase, bigger than Newcastle I'd say. Great history and yet not only are they not competing to win trophies nowadays, they have not even been in the top flight for 10 years. Wouldn't say Leeds have a massive fanbase, definitely not bigger than Newcastle's. They only have a 36,000 seater stadium and only get an average attendance of 22,000, whereas Newcastle got 43,000 in their season in the championship. Having said that, I agree that they are massively underachieving and even though for the majority of my lifetime (maybe not quite), they've been outside the Premier League, I'd still consider them a Premier League team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
regular_john Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 Us, without a shadow of a doubt. We're not only the biggest club in the West Midlands, we're the biggest club in the entire area between London and Manchester. We have one of the biggest and best grounds in the country, the best training facilities, an excellent academy set up, and have spent the (joint) longest amount of time in the top flight out of all the clubs in England. And yet, in the last one hundred years, we have won the league once and the FA cup twice. Yes, Rotterdam was a huge achievement. Yes, it's nice to have won the league cup a few times. But as far as domestic competition goes, in the last century we have underachieved dismally. Teams with more league championships in the same time period: Manchester United - 18 Liverpool - 17 Arsenal - 13 Everton - 8 Chelsea - 4 Leeds United - 3 Wolverhampton Wanderers - 3 Manchester City - 3 Huddersfield Town - 3 Tottenham Hotspur - 2 Derby County - 2 Portsmouth - 2 Sheffield Wednesday - 2 Blackburn Rovers - 2 Burnley - 2 Still...Up the Villa! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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