The History Thread

[villakram]

17 hours ago, maqroll said:

The history of Haiti is pure misery. Total genocide of it's original inhabitants, slavery, slave revolt, violent government repression, chronic poverty and now repeat sufferer of natural disasters. I really feel terrible about their plight. 

and given Clinton's scumbag behavior with the post earthquake relief $$... truly the US is in a world of trouble.

I find it so difficult to understand how such abject poverty can be allowed to exist next door to a nation as wealthy as US. Gazillions of $ are not needed... just a helping hand, yet nothing, absolutely nothing. This would be akin to the EU etc. deciding to ignore Ireland and let it rot in post colonial hell. Not the best comparison I know, but I just struggle to understand how Cuba/Puerto Rico/etc islands have been treated.

Edited October 9, 2016 by villakram

[The_Rev]

I may have posted this in another thread but I guess it belongs here anyway: 

 

I only discovered it a few weeks ago, it's a week by week breakdown of the first world war with every episode talking about the news on the 100th anniversary of it's occurrence. An absolutely monumental project, but a really interesting one.  It's filmed in Berlin and fronted by an American guy who lives in Stockholm so it's got a hell of an international flavour to it. Really interesting to see a bit more than the stuff we did at school which basically involved the Old Contemptibles making it as far as Belgium, digging some trenches in Ypres and having a really shitty time of it four four years.   

I'm currently into the spring of 1915 with my viewing and they are currently painting the Austrians as a bunch of utter imbeciles who seemed to be so bad at fighting a war (which they essentially started) that it must have seen to their German allies that they were trying to lose on purpose.      

Edited October 9, 2016 by The_Rev

[maqroll]

 

Looks like he has the fear of God in him

[maqroll]

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Edited October 30, 2016 by maqroll

[villakram]

So it seems those ISIS muppets have for all intents erased the remaining ancient ruins in Nimrud... I was only in the British museum over the summer, stunning material there and to think what those asshats destroyed

[coda]

[sexbelowsound]

I'm sure you guys have probably come across it what with it being a few years old but the history of Rome podcast is brilliant. So addictive. 

[tonyh29]

This looks an Interesting read for any WWII buffs

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the book in question is The Total Rush – or, to use its superior English title, Blitzed – which reveals the astonishing and hitherto largely untold story of the Third Reich’s relationship with drugs, including cocaine, heroin, morphine and, above all, methamphetamines (aka crystal meth), and of their effect not only on Hitler’s final days – the Führer, by Ohler’s account, was an absolute junkie with ruined veins by the time he retreated to the last of his bunkers – but on the Wehrmacht’s successful invasion of France in 1940.

Edited December 29, 2016 by tonyh29

[maqroll]

Nice one, I'll look for that

[HanoiVillan]

A good review of this book:

 

OCTOBER 10, 2016

Blitzed: the Third Reich as a society on drugs

So my copy of Norman Ohler’s splendidly-titled Blitzed showed up. This could have been a really disappointing book – in the acknowledgments, Ohler mentions a Berlin DJ friend who told him Nazis took masses of drugs, and I can well imagine going from that beginning to lurid Hitler Channel kitsch. But Ohler has achieved so much more, and the mass of archival references in the back shows us how and why. Although this is quite a short book, it does something genuinely interesting and difficult, a new view on the Third Reich. Also, as well as the superb title, Shaun Whiteside has produced a really excellent translation of a text heavy with Nazi and bureaucratic jargon, street slang, and pharmaceutical technicalities.

Pervitin: getting cranked up from below

Where to begin? Perhaps we could kick off with the so-called discovery of fatigue back in the nineteenth century, as scientists and especially the military began to explore the limits of human performance. Obviously, there was a limit. Nutrition was involved; physical training could push the limit out further. And fascinatingly, the limit was closely linked up, in complicated ways, with the emotional and psychological forces of motivation, leadership, and unit-cohesion. Some people took this all the way to believing that the soul, the supernatural, or previously unknown physics was at work. Otto Ranke, a German physiologist, was running the German army’s medical research at the outbreak of war and specifically working on these problems.

If Nazism was anything, it was a doctrine that claimed Germany could overcome the limits of its purely material resources through the combination of new technology, inspired leadership, and ideological motivation through hatred. It was necessary to do more, push higher, go faster, succeed through will, outdo the other guy in working towards the leader. As the brilliance of Adolf Hitler and of German military commanders would inspire soldiers to triumph on the battlefield, the brilliance of great scientists and entrepreneurs wouid lead Germany to the economic triumph that was also required to win. Ohler’s first case study speaks directly to this.

The one branch of science that was most identified with Nazism was chemistry. Fischer-Tröpsch coal-to-liquids technology would provide the petrol to fuel the blitzkrieg; further advances in polymerisation would use F-T feedstocks to provide synthetic rubber and plastics. IG Farben’s money funded the party, and the party served IG Farben. We all know where this is going. But what about chemistry directed towards Germans, rather than the enemy?

Temmler-Werke of Johannisthal, Berlin didn’t invent methamphetamine – they pinched it from the Japanese – but they did do what industrial chemists mostly do all day. They scaled up the production process, nailed down consistent purity, and packaged it as conveniently shelf-stable and orally administered tablets. Pervitin was born. Then Temmler’s marketers did what pharma marketers mostly do all day; they corrupted the medical profession, lavishing entertainment, advertising, and copious free samples on every GP in Germany. Very soon you could get it in any chemist’s shop, and Germans took it in epic quantities. By mid-1941, Temmler was manufacturing 30 million “units” a month; it’s not clear whether a unit was one tablet, or a pack of 30, so it’s possible they were producing enough to give every German a couple of tabs a day.

Nazi policy on drugs was contradictory in a way that reflects Nazism. In one direction, they were very punitive – Ohler’s endnotes mention the terrifying case of a dentist accused of sampling the superbly pure Merck liquid cocaine he had access to, who was ordered to undergo compulsory detox and was gassed under Aktion T-4 the very next day – but they also conceptualised drugs as foreign, degenerate, possibly Jewish substances associated with dodgy Weimar characters. Meth, as an innovative and pharmaceutically pure product of Germany’s great chemical industries, didn’t fit into this worldview at all. And it didn’t help that it seemed to speak to Nazi aims and methods; everyone who was desperately competing for power, pushing production targets, choking down their doubts, or marching frantically across the heaths found it supremely useful and then, of course, indispensable. It fit with a society built on hyper-motivation.

In this way, Nazi Germany got cranked up on speed from below. Ohler shows a string of letters Heinrich Böll wrote home from the army during the Phoney War, asking his parents to send more Pervitin urgently because it kept him from sleeping on watch.

This brings us back to Otto Ranke. As the German army worked through a complex set of wargames to evaluate the official plan for the invasion of France versus the minority report created by Erich von Manstein, known as Operation SICHELSCHNITT, a key variable became obvious. When it took the German side less than five days to get to the River Meuse, they usually won; when they didn’t, the Allies usually did. If SICHELSCHNITT was to be implemented, nobody could afford to sleep, and Dr Ranke had just what they needed, 31 million Pervitin pills. Later, after Dunkirk, as the campaign entered its second phase of operations against Paris and the French reserve armies, Ranke made his own tour of the front distributing his own kind of resupply from a sack in his car. Where Colonel Hentsch of the General Staff had toured the Marne in 1914 spreading doubt and despondency, Staff Surgeon Ranke toured the front spreading synthetic certainty. Ohler makes a decent case that the Western campaign of 1940 was won through chemical warfare, with the unusual feature that the chemical was administered to friendly forces rather than the enemy.

(That said, Ohler’s military history is shaky on Dunkirk, where he uncritically relates the myth of the decisive halt order.)

The Wehrmacht was well satisfied, if increasingly twitchy; they ordered as much Pervitin again for each army group invading Russia.

Eukodal: Shooting up at the top

Ohler now switches focus. If the Pervitin experience got Germany high from below, what impact did drugs have on the men at the top? We’ve seen that, in an important sense, Nazism aimed to be like a drug itself; testimonies from the time are full of references to the “intoxication” of the great rallies and the leader’s speeches. And of course leadership is a drug. The motivational effects evoked by emotion are, in the end, biochemical. Nazi slang reflected this; as the war went on and got worse, the term for being cheered up by an interview with Hitler was a Betonspritze, a shot of concrete.

The relationship between dictator and subject can be seen as a drug relationship in more than one ways. For a start, there is the direct effect of the leader on the led. This also works the other way around, though. Ohler points out that Hitler’s own drug abuse began when he radically reduced his public speaking; denied the swing from stage-fright to performance high as a drug, he turned to other drugs. And how; his daily pharmacopeia included, during the winter of 1944, pervitin, barbiturates, intravenous oxycodone, cocaine, and testosterone all at once.

Addictiveness seems to have been an important and under-discussed feature of the tyrant’s personality – when he first received Eukodal, he was begging for more and drug-seeking by the end of the day, and Ohler quotes him rhapsodising to his ear, nose, and throat specialist about “that wonderful cocaine”. Perhaps that was why he was so keen on prohibition and lecturing those around about their health – was he aware of this trait and projecting? On one occasion, Hitler’s doctor miscalculated the dose and only gave him half his usual fix. Hitler was hysterical. The doctor gave him more. Hitler was delighted and pathetically grateful. Ohler glosses his meltdown in the bunker as, in part, withdrawal from opiates after the supply broke down. Certainly, he exhibited all the classic symptoms of opiate addiction, notably constipation. He also had several typical problems related to steroid use.

Morell: The dictator, his dealer, and occupied Europe

His doctor, Theodor Morell, had been best known as a sort of Dr Robert figure who served Weimar celebrity by keeping his prescribing pad open and his mouth shut, two services for which he was well paid. Ohler makes the fascinating point that, because Morell rarely gave Hitler the same shot twice, Hitler was unable to feel dependent on any particular molecule, but rather became addicted to his doctor. Looking at Morell and his bag of pills and potions, the only bag ever allowed into Hitler’s presence without search, we see much more about the Third Reich. Morell was getting hooked on Hitler. The dictator took up all his time; he was terrified of the Gestapo, and only one man could protect him from them; he couldn’t resist the financial possibilities being Hitler’s doctor gave him.

Morell managed to arrogate an aryanised drug factory in Czechoslovakia to himself and followed this up by claiming dibs on all the glands from the Ukraine’s slaughterhouses for his hormone preparations, escalating to the minister or even Hitler every time the military tried to grab back his rolling stock. Ohler quotes dozens of letters and telegrams of Morell’s badgering various officials for the glands. He had to have the glands. In a sense, he had become a vampire – sucking the blood out of the Ukraine and injecting it into the Nazi elite to keep them young. He even got a carve-out from the drug-approval regulations so that he would be allowed to sell anything he used successfully in his practice at the leader’s headquarters.

Like Morell, the German bourgeoisie didn’t like what it was getting into but couldn’t resist the opportunities, and the servitude it entered into was all the more servile for being the comfortable kind.

http://www.harrowell.org.uk/blog/2016/10/10/blitzed-the-third-reich-as-a-society-on-drugs/

[chrisp65]

They had a review and discussion on the book and the subject on Radio 4 a couple of months back. 

Sounded interesting.

[veloman]

Yes very interesting stuff. As a side issue; Continental cyclists discovered the benefits if Pervitin after the War. This along with another amphet called Tonedron; they were known in the peloton as 'Tin Tin' and 'Ton Ton'. It seems that many pro riders of the late 50's, 60's and even early 70's were on this stuff. It was one of these that did for Tommy Simpson - if anyone remembers him. Don't think amphets are readily available now; for use as Performance Enhancing anyway. 

[maqroll]

On 10/9/2016 at 16:37, villakram said:

and given Clinton's scumbag behavior with the post earthquake relief $$... truly the US is in a world of trouble.

I find it so difficult to understand how such abject poverty can be allowed to exist next door to a nation as wealthy as US. Gazillions of $ are not needed... just a helping hand, yet nothing, absolutely nothing. This would be akin to the EU etc. deciding to ignore Ireland and let it rot in post colonial hell. Not the best comparison I know, but I just struggle to understand how Cuba/Puerto Rico/etc islands have been treated.

The Cuban Revolution accomplished some good things, but the cult of personality decimated any potential that they had post-Batista. If any country has a moral obligation to Haiti, it's France. Jamaica-UK, Aruba-Netherlands, etc. All the colonial powers have shamefully abandoned their former subjects.

[HanoiVillan]

15 minutes ago, maqroll said:

The Cuban Revolution accomplished some good things, but the cult of personality decimated any potential that they had post-Batista. If any country has a moral obligation to Haiti, it's France. Jamaica-UK, Aruba-Netherlands, etc. All the colonial powers have shamefully abandoned their former subjects.

I don't understand how we have 'shamefully abandoned' Jamaica, especially. 

[maqroll]

Just now, HanoiVillan said:

I don't understand how we have 'shamefully abandoned' Jamaica, especially. 

It's a fairly typical case study of New World plunder and subjugation, whereby the indigenous population is all but completely wiped out, replaced by African slave labor, and more or less ignored the rest of the way. Jamaican sugar and coffee exports lined the pockets of the British, and when independence came, the political vacuum created rampant discord, corruption, social insecurity and violence, all of which they are still grappling with. France abandoned Haiti, Spain abandoned the DR and Cuba, The Netherlands abandoned Aruba, Britain abandoned Jamaica, etc. 

[HanoiVillan]

7 minutes ago, maqroll said:

It's a fairly typical case study of New World plunder and subjugation, whereby the indigenous population is all but completely wiped out, replaced by African slave labor, and more or less ignored the rest of the way. Jamaican sugar and coffee exports lined the pockets of the British, and when independence came, the political vacuum created rampant discord, corruption, social insecurity and violence, all of which they are still grappling with. France abandoned Haiti, Spain abandoned the DR and Cuba, The Netherlands abandoned Aruba, Britain abandoned Jamaica, etc. 

I'm well aware of the iniquities of empire. But what has that got to do with 'abandoning' the country? The issue is that we got involved there in the first place, not that we've left them alone to govern themselves over the last few decades.

They (rightly) chose independence, they don't need us interfering in their domestic affairs. 

[maqroll]

Just now, HanoiVillan said:

I'm well aware of the iniquities of empire. But what has that got to do with 'abandoning' the country? The issue is that we got involved there in the first place, not that we've left them alone to govern themselves over the last few decades.

They (rightly) chose independence, they don't need us interfering in their domestic affairs. 

I suppose that's your take on it. I happen to think that on an ethical level, the European powers generally fell well short of the mark in terms of lifting these resource-rich islands out of a system of serfdom that had been perpetuated to varying degrees by the colonists for 400 years. The Duvalier regime is a prime example of the kind of systemic underdevelopment and repression that has funneled vast wealth into the Swiss bank accounts of light skinned rulers at the expense of the destitute populace. The legacy of racism still permeates the entire Caribbean region, and if the old colonial powers had any shame, they'd seek to make amends.

[HanoiVillan]

6 minutes ago, maqroll said:

I suppose that's your take on it. I happen to think that on an ethical level, the European powers generally fell well short of the mark in terms of lifting these resource-rich islands out of a system of serfdom that had been perpetuated to varying degrees by the colonists for 400 years. The Duvalier regime is a prime example of the kind of systemic underdevelopment and repression that has funneled vast wealth into the Swiss bank accounts of light skinned rulers at the expense of the destitute populace. The legacy of racism still permeates the entire Caribbean region, and if the old colonial powers had any shame, they'd seek to make amends.

I guess I don't understand what you mean by 'make amends'. 

If you mean 'pay reparations', then I certainly think there's a good argument for that. But once we've done that, then what? By criticising Britain for 'abandoning' Jamaica, you seem to be suggesting that we should, on the contrary, be more involved. What does that involvement look like, that doesn't involve trampling on Jamaica's sovereignty?

[maqroll]

3 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said:

I guess I don't understand what you mean by 'make amends'. 

If you mean 'pay reparations', then I certainly think there's a good argument for that. But once we've done that, then what? By criticising Britain for 'abandoning' Jamaica, you seem to be suggesting that we should, on the contrary, be more involved. What does that involvement look like, that doesn't involve trampling on Jamaica's sovereignty?

I think "reparations" is a bit of a hot button term that obscures the kind of basic measures that could've been taken to address the needs of former slaves who suddenly had to craft a functional government out of the ruins of 400 years of total exploitation. As a Commonwealth nation, Jamaica, in my opinion, should have received much more guidance, investment and true partnership than what was offered after 1962 or whenever they achieved independence. The fruits of the British Empire were channeled straight back to England, and Jamaica was not immune to this scheme. It's wealth ultimately never benefitted the Jamaican people, but rather the financiers and industry moguls back in England. Had Britain invested more basic good will and support for it's former gold mine, Jamaica would be in a much better situation than it is now. 

[Awol]

Decolonization is a process that should have taken 40-50 yrs following World War II, enabling the phased standing up of local institutions of governance and professionalised local civil services. Had we been able to do that then much of the former Empire might look more like Australia than Zimbabwe. 

Sadly Washington insisted that the UK GTFO of those countries as rapidly as possible, partly so they could move in behind us and partly to ensure a vastly reduced global role for the UK itself. 

 Let's face it, absent Pearl Harbour America would have happily let Britain shoulder the burden of facing the Nazis alone, while emptying our Treasury to pay for the arms our own incinerated factories could not - which it did, completely.

So when Americans bang on about the ills of decolonization the only suitable reply is a two fingered salute at the sheer f'ing neck & hypocrisy of it.