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The Facebook post of my mate's recently graduated son. He's intelligent enough to have written it, but I assume that the quotation marks used means that he has entered into honest plagiarism. Made me laugh, anyway.

 

"Once upon a midnight dreary, while I porn-surfed, weak and weary, over many a strange and spurious site of ' hot xxx galore'. While I clicked my fav'rite bookmark, suddenly there came a warning, and my heart was filled with mourning, mourning for my dear amour, " 'Tis not possible!", I muttered, " Give me back my free hardcore!"..... quoth the server, 404."

 

Oo, so close. Any censoring wouldn't be getting the destination server to 404 the page, it would be either null routing the IP, or dropping DNS queries, or maybe just dropping the packets based on dest IP.

 

 

That's what I call a heckle! :)

 

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Will they filter by URL or by content or what?

 

You could have a sex ed website that gets filtered, whereas a website like xhamster which doesn't imply porn gets through.

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I thought they were implementing Leveson light as agreed by all 3 main parties ?

 

Something was supposedly better than nothing was the reasoning behind that. What Cameron did was pretty scandalous really though in ignoring Leveson, especially considering his background of affiliations with News International staff.

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I thought they were implementing Leveson light as agreed by all 3 main parties ?

Something was supposedly better than nothing was the reasoning behind that. What Cameron did was pretty scandalous really though in ignoring Leveson, especially considering his background of affiliations with News International staff.

I see

Sometimes I wonder how you can post with a straight face :)

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I thought they were implementing Leveson light as agreed by all 3 main parties ?

Something was supposedly better than nothing was the reasoning behind that. What Cameron did was pretty scandalous really though in ignoring Leveson, especially considering his background of affiliations with News International staff.

I see

Sometimes I wonder how you can post with a straight face :)

 

Tony - please tell me you don't agree with Cameron re the stance he took (and his motives both disclosed and those that most know)

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I thought they were implementing Leveson light as agreed by all 3 main parties ?

Something was supposedly better than nothing was the reasoning behind that. What Cameron did was pretty scandalous really though in ignoring Leveson, especially considering his background of affiliations with News International staff.

I see

Sometimes I wonder how you can post with a straight face :)

Tony - please tell me you don't agree with Cameron re the stance he took (and his motives both disclosed and those that most know)


We have a Leveson thread for that ... It was more your changing of history that I was referring to :) Edited by tonyh29
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I work in a school. Children are very clever with computers, more so than most adults. They've spent their entire lives with them. They will find it very easy to bypass this after not very long at all. In fact so will everyone.

It seems completely pointless. I don't use piratebay and it's blocked by my ISP, but I searched google for proxies and mirrors the other day to see how easy it was to access it. A few clicks.

It's not saving anyone from anything as far as I can see.

What's piratebay?

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It says they're on a hiding to nothing.  That any attempt to discuss the reality, the problems, the reasons why it won't work, will be drowned out in a cacophony of phoney outrage from contemptible, scummy, wholly offensive rags like the Scum and the Heil.  That they know this, and will seek not to engage.

 

It says that if we want to create a climate where political views can be expressed with honesty, we have to deal with the vile filth which is the popular press.  Implementing Leveson would be a help.  But Dave won't be doing that.

 

And it says we're a long way away from where we should be.  We have a national political debate conducted at about the level of seven-year-olds.

 

 

I don't think anyone's under the illusion that there aren't some pretty scummy rags out there, but if a political party refuses to speak up against a bad policy because it might get them some bad coverage from certain sections of the media then that is squarely their fault. It's all very well defending Labour and saying that they'll get slated in the media but I honestly couldn't give a damn how outraged the rags get - politicians should stand up to things like this and those that don't should be ashamed of themselves - Labour, Conservative, Lib Dem or otherwise. Labour and Lib Dem MPs that vote for this are just as in the wrong as the Conservatives who vote for it.

 

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I blame Tony and his badly edited posts :D

When in doubt, blame Tony.

That's a good rule. A reliable rule.

I always blame Prescott but blaming Blair works just as well

Oh hang on .....

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This is an interesting post from Reddit

 

 

 

You are wrong. You were mislead. You see that their supposed intentions are stupid, yet you still believe their words.

In reality this has nothing to do with child protection. It's about having the legal capability to filter things. Child protection is just the most convenient excuse and the one you can least object to.

The same happened in Germany (the argument though was "child porn" rather than child protection of looking at porn) - luckily the public outcry blocked the program (for now).

In Denmark such a blacklist already exists. Let's look at the steps:

  1. We block child porn.
  2. We block sites that could contain child porn (Pirate Bay...)
  3. We block sites that sell drugs
  4. We block gambling sites
  5. "In 2012 Internet service providers (ISPs) and copyright holders in Denmark agreed on a framework where all ISPs will block access to copyright-infringing content if one of the providers is ordered to do so by a court. The Danish Ministry of Culture plans to work with ISPs and rights holder groups to "formalise" the agreement in a "written Code of Conduct"."
  6. ...

The situation is very simple: Once you filter something it is very easy to either openly or secretly filter something more. You just change a small part of the law or, better even, just some minor administrative regulation. Or you just, you know, do it and when someone complains you say it was an accident. Also take a look at the list of sitesblocked in Australia (at your own risk, hello PRISM). Or just at this passage from an ArsTechnica article:

In Finland, for instance, a man who runs a website arguing that the blacklist approach is ineffective was called in for questioning last year after publishing "a list of a few hundred censored sites." His own site was then placed on the blacklist, which means that visitors from Finland are greeted by a message saying that the site they are trying to reach contains illegal images.

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