villa4europe Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 (edited) drivers that slow down / stop for an ambulance / police car / fire engine that's on the opposite side of the road with a clear run ahead also just been through worcester and saw a mid 20s girl and her fella outside the law courts in their sunday finest having a smoke, she was about 7 months pregnant, that kid doesnt stand a chance Edited September 5, 2014 by villa4europe 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dAVe80 Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 drivers that slow down / stop for an ambulance / police car / fire engine that's on the opposite side of the road with a clear run ahead I wouldn't stop completely, but I'd certainly slow down, and get ready to get the hell out of the way if needed. Prepared, innit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YLN Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 Why do people press the button to cross at traffic lights without looking. Then walk off when its on red so you have to sit at a crossing on a red when no one needs to cross. Absolute rocketpolishers There are traffic lights at my hospital that are very ped oriented. You press the button and the signal changes almost immediately. I usually cross without pressing the button, but sometimes I'll cut it slightly fine. Always the car would have to speed up remarkably to hit me, but still drivers get annoyed and beep, and I think, 'you don't **** realise that you having to slow down slightly as I cross is the alternative to sitting still for about 20 seconds'. It pisses me off and it shouldn't. I think I might just press the button in future and **** motorists. **** them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seat68 Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 In stafford, the main roundabout has about 4 different pedestrian crossings, 3 of them, the button has no effect at all, its there purely as a thing for people to press, and still people think they are controlling the traffic by pressing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phumfeinz Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 That biker who died going 100mph through an intersection. No sympathy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted September 5, 2014 Moderator Share Posted September 5, 2014 That biker who died going 100mph through an intersection. No sympathy. The people who seem to think this is the car drivers fault. Words fail me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted September 5, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted September 5, 2014 That biker who died going 100mph through an intersection. No sympathy. The people who seem to think this is the car drivers fault. Words fail me. It's a bit of both. I'd say blame primarily lies with the biker. Had he been doing, say, 55 in a 50 limit then I'd say it wasn't his fault. But 97 mph is ridiculous. However, I don't think you can excuse the driver for pulling out in front of someone like that, regardless of the speed of the oncoming vehicle. So yes, the speed he was going it was his own fault. but I think the car driver shouldn't be totally absolved of blame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArteSuave Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 The driver is mainly responsible for causing a crash, the biker is responsible for causing his own death IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phumfeinz Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 The driver is mainly responsible for causing a crash, the biker is responsible for causing his own death IMO. I'm having a hard time figuring out what you're saying here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lapal_fan Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 ...you can crash without dying y'know... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted September 5, 2014 Moderator Share Posted September 5, 2014 However, I don't think you can excuse the driver for pulling out in front of someone like that, regardless of the speed of the oncoming vehicle. So yes, the speed he was going it was his own fault. but I think the car driver shouldn't be totally absolved of blame. I didn't absolve the car driver but the guy on the motorbike was the one who caused it. He was the one breaking the law. Had he been under the speed limit perhaps the driver would have seen him or perhaps he could have stopped or taken action to avoid it. Maybe the driver should have seen him, maybe. But the guy on the bike was driving dangerously from the moment he set off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phumfeinz Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 I'd say the biker going 100mph through an intersection is mainly responsible for the crash 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post chrisp65 Posted September 5, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted September 5, 2014 man with no physical protection doing 100mph through a junction and not knowing the ability of other road users takes approximately 100% of any blame 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArteSuave Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 I'd say the biker going 100mph through an intersection is mainly responsible for the crash The driver had nothing at all impeding his sight and started to turn when the bike was easily visible from his position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phumfeinz Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 (edited) I'd say the biker going 100mph through an intersection is mainly responsible for the crash The driver had nothing at all impeding his sight and started to turn when the bike was easily visible from his position. Were you in the passenger seat or something? How do you know the driver had nothing impeding their sight or that the bike was easily visible? Edited September 5, 2014 by Phumfeinz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArteSuave Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 Were you in the passenger seat or something? How do you know the driver had nothing impeding their sight or that the bike was easily visible? Alright then mate, the driver had nothing "out of his control" impeding his sight unless light doesn't travel in straight lines in Norfolk. Maybe the front pillar was in the way or he had a satnav in the middle of the windscreen but there was no bends or other vehicles between him and the bike when he started turning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 the Heil article saying Fabian Delph's international debut means Aston Villa have now had more players capped by England than any other team he became the 72 nd player ... Liverpool being second with 68 players so actually nothing has changed , we were already the top provider ..and still are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarewsEyebrowDesigner Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 All vehicles should be controlled by robots and all should remain at a steady 30mph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phumfeinz Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 Were you in the passenger seat or something? How do you know the driver had nothing impeding their sight or that the bike was easily visible? Alright then mate, the driver had nothing "out of his control" impeding his sight unless light doesn't travel in straight lines in Norfolk. Maybe the front pillar was in the way or he had a satnav in the middle of the windscreen but there was no bends or other vehicles between him and the bike when he started turning. Regardless of bending lights in Norfolk the fact is the biker was responsible for the crash, mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted September 5, 2014 Moderator Share Posted September 5, 2014 So... a child crosses the road and doesn't see the motorbike and is knocked over. Is the child responsible for the accident or is the guy on the bike who is almost 40mph over the speed limit and unable to stop responsible? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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