AVTuco Posted November 9, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted November 9, 2013 When I see him out there, I still don't think he's really a player. There's something funny about him (or me?). His hair? He looks like a little boy. He has no brain, or strength. If he gets those, he could become a player. Miles away still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P3te Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 we should ban him from shooting for the next few games. Outright tell him unless he's got an open goal he's not to pull the trigger, that might get him putting the head up instead of thinking about when he's going to hit one all the time Of course it could also ruin the guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troon_villan Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 (edited) Could be the first player to be fined for shooting? EDIT - Forgot about Ashley Cole! Edited November 9, 2013 by troon_villan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P3te Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 not sure the PFA would let us get away with that one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myko Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 Actually thought he looked proper decent today, best performance so far. With the exception of that one awful shot towards the north stand his shooting didn't look as sh*t as it usually does either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 Isn't scared to run at a player and can provide some decent outlet. Needs to work on final product though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbie09 Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 Gradually improving each game. Put in a couple of decent crosses that had someone gambled on going to the near post, may have resulted in attempts on goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattyp_avfc Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 I think him and Helenius are Lambert's "project" players... Bring them in for a relatively small fee, train them in the aspects they need improving on, (decision making, strength.. Stuff like that) Then once they are ready we have first team options... I think He will come good for us and it will be a case of him staying in the team for a while when he does! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliffy Biro Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 Doesn't lack the confidence or ambition but my god his shooting is awful, very frustrating but obviously hope he does come good. I mean we won anyway so his decision making wont be under much spotlight but had we drawn or even lost i think more people would be kicking up a fuss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isa Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 I think him and Helenius are Lambert's "project" players... Bring them in for a relatively small fee, train them in the aspects they need improving on, (decision making, strength.. Stuff like that) Then once they are ready we have first team options... I think He will come good for us and it will be a case of him staying in the team for a while when he does! The difference is that Tonev is still getting game-time to supplement his development. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattyp_avfc Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 I think him and Helenius are Lambert's "project" players... Bring them in for a relatively small fee, train them in the aspects they need improving on, (decision making, strength.. Stuff like that) Then once they are ready we have first team options... I think He will come good for us and it will be a case of him staying in the team for a while when he does! The difference is that Tonev is still getting game-time to supplement his development. Indeed, problem is we have a decent amount of forwards compared to "wingers" Helenius should come good I feel, he has bags of ability ala tonev! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isa Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 I feel the same. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted November 9, 2013 Moderator Share Posted November 9, 2013 Terrible, terrible decision making - he's talented, he's quite quick and he's got good feet, but he's going to need to learn when to do things, which things to do and how to best have an impact on a game - he was barely in the first half and though better in the second half, he still didn't really add anything in terms of end product - he needs to figure out where the ball should be going, he looks to have the ability to put it where he wants it, but he wants to put it in all the wrong places. In an ideal world we'd send him on loan somewhere to learn the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattyp_avfc Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 Terrible, terrible decision making - he's talented, he's quite quick and he's got good feet, but he's going to need to learn when to do things, which things to do and how to best have an impact on a game - he was barely in the first half and though better in the second half, he still didn't really add anything in terms of end product - he needs to figure out where the ball should be going, he looks to have the ability to put it where he wants it, but he wants to put it in all the wrong places. In an ideal world we'd send him on loan somewhere to learn the game. I do genuinely think his decision making will come with more games played in this league and with his new team mates. He's 23 so the negatives can be coached out.. the one shining positive is as you say, his ability... He has bags of it.. You can tell he wants to do well for us and for that I'll take the "long shots" from distance because one will go in soon, least they are toned down now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciggiesnbeer Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 I still like him. I dont think he failed to beat his man today. Pretty good. His crosses are going from poor to decent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 His crossing was good, but he should be fined a week's wages every time he takes a shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abdulaziz1 Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 Weimann is on the right those isn't he Would you prefer him to Gabby in the team? I'd prefer him to Weimann .. I don't think I'd do to Gabby as I rate Gabby a lot .. Still thinks he might be better with ball the both of them .. It's his third start after all .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 Very rough edged and needs a lot of time, still feel he will come good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozvillafan Posted November 9, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted November 9, 2013 Terrible, terrible decision making - he's talented, he's quite quick and he's got good feet, but he's going to need to learn when to do things, which things to do and how to best have an impact on a game - he was barely in the first half and though better in the second half, he still didn't really add anything in terms of end product - he needs to figure out where the ball should be going, he looks to have the ability to put it where he wants it, but he wants to put it in all the wrong places. In an ideal world we'd send him on loan somewhere to learn the game. I actually thought he was quite good today - especially compared with this nightmare debut. Had a big hand in the few opportunities we had in the first half and contributed to our second goal. Certainly room for improvement - but he's showing promise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwan Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 Very raw still. The game still moves too quickly for him and I'd keep him out on the wing to simplify things. But one of our few players that can take on a man, beat him, and put in a cross. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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