BOF Posted September 30, 2013 Moderator Share Posted September 30, 2013 Player power won over an utter word removed of a manager so I don't see that as being in any way typical of their squad character, particularly given the fact that he ASKED them to call the bosses. I wouldn't derive anything from a player's behaviour under di Canio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BG_Villa_Fan Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 BOF, I disagree. Di Canio might have been a tit but players shouldn't do things like that. I fully expect their next manager to get rid of anyone who was involved in this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted September 30, 2013 Moderator Share Posted September 30, 2013 Then yes we do disagree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SikhInTrinity Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 Disagree, their is a way for a manager to behave in the media, fair enough if he was winning games, but he wasn't. You shouldn't go to fans and state its your fault, then go to the media and slate someone like John O'Shea. He made a stupid decision in getting rid of one of his better players and replacing him with Borini. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 (edited) why cant O'Shea get criticism though. His red card vs Crystal Palace was something you wouldnt get on a under 8 games. it was disgraceful for a guy that has won champions league. I agree he went too far in public but some of them players are getting away with it, they conceded so many easy goals from set-pieces that they should have been fined. basic mistakes from professional footballers. If i made a basic mistake in my job id get moaned at Edited September 30, 2013 by Zatman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted September 30, 2013 Moderator Share Posted September 30, 2013 Because if it was in isolation then fair enough Zatman but PdC never stopped criticising his players in public. We can only imagine what he was like behind closed doors. From what we do know about what was going on there, you can't treat people like that, no matter how we might pretend you can as fans - because it was funny to watch. The fact of the matter is that there is a way to behave as a person and there's a way to treat people. Di Canio hasn't a clue how to do that and he was quite rightly removed from his role. He was such a destructive influence in Sunderland. The players never rebelled until di Canio asked them to. Then they duly obliged. He brought it on himself with his behaviour and then he prompted the phone call that got him sacked. How anyone can blame the players in that impossible position I don't know. The man was ruining Sunderland from the inside out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 SikhInTrinity there was various first teamers as well mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SikhInTrinity Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 (edited) SikhInTrinity there was various first teamers as well mate Not to an extent where they rang up RL to remove him right? I think the two situations were completely different. You still have players like Petrov, Barry, Milner, Young, Carew praising MON whether we like him or not. Di Canio will not get that level of praise from anyone. Edited September 30, 2013 by SikhInTrinity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SikhInTrinity Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 Kevin Ball in charge for Saturday, think they feel they won't get much on Sat. So bring in a new manager for next 3 games of Swansea, Newcastle and Hull. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 Kevin Ball in charge for Saturday, think they feel they won't get much on Sat. So bring in a new manager for next 3 games of Swansea, Newcastle and Hull. Would be quite funny if Newcastle was the new manager's second game in charge, as that was also Di Canio's second game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted September 30, 2013 Moderator Share Posted September 30, 2013 Moyes will be happy he's not facing a new full-time manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SikhInTrinity Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 Money being put on Stuart Pearce, if they appointed him, then I'd agree their owner has done a Randy Lerner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 more of a Venkys appointing Steve Kean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 Moyes will be happy he's not facing a new full-time manager. I remember a fairly recent time his team faced a team with no permanent manager... http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/8940369.stm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimzk5 Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 What's this about kmac and players celebrating him not getting the villa job, first I've heard of it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest av1 Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 Former Sunderland manager Paolo Di Canio issues a statement following his dismissal where he says there was "no training ground bust up". He added: "The players have since sent me messages thanking me for my time as their manager and helping them improve as footballers." They were so thankful that they got you the sack. Deluded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 It's probably the language barrier, they actually sent him messages saying "Thank **** you're gone, we've not played football like that since we were in the Championship". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choffer Posted October 1, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted October 1, 2013 What's this about kmac and players celebrating him not getting the villa job, first I've heard of it Players celebrating the departure of MON, not that KMac didn't get the job. At least that was my understanding. I thought a lot of the players at the time were fairly vocal in their support for KMac. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimzk5 Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 What's this about kmac and players celebrating him not getting the villa job, first I've heard of it Players celebrating the departure of MON, not that KMac didn't get the job. At least that was my understanding. I thought a lot of the players at the time were fairly vocal in their support for KMac. yeah seems more logical, I remember a lot of player s celebrating with kmac during the west ham and Everton wins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 It's looking like Poyet will get the gig. Not a bad choice, at least they seem to have dodged the McLeish bullet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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