Big_John_10 Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 No one specifically singled out Lowton, I never said they did. All I said was that they said "if you buy lower league players that's where you'll end up". Well considering he was the only lower league player we'd signed it would seem strange for so many to complain like you claim yet not attach any blame to Lowton.Where did I say "so many" complained? It isn't logical but then when has VT ever been logical? :yawn: Well congratulations making up something to moan about a few fans. You can respond and have the last post, I know you like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 No one specifically singled out Lowton, I never said they did. All I said was that they said "if you buy lower league players that's where you'll end up". Well considering he was the only lower league player we'd signed it would seem strange for so many to complain like you claim yet not attach any blame to Lowton.Where did I say "so many" complained? It isn't logical but then when has VT ever been logical? :yawn: Well congratulations making up something to moan about a few fans. You can respond and have the last post, I know you like that.I never made it up though. Why do you keep saying this? I don't care about the last word. Stop being so petty and resorting to personal insults. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 When Lambert was watching the game yesterday, he may well have been unhappy with our performance at 0-1 up, but perhaps that would not be so logical to understand, so did't say it. It would only have been 'not so logical to understand' to those fans with a limited brain capacity. The intelligent ones would have understood exactly what he was saying. I agree but was just trying to highlight how some watch the game and others just look for the result. ps.. generalising of course Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillanousOne Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 we will likely get humiliated a whole lot more before Lambert imposes the consistency and attitude needed to make us a mid table team again, can't believe there's not someone on this thread calling Stephen Ireland lazy as is usually the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 There were always likely to be big bumps on the way this season. Saints to be fair this season have looked half-decent, much better than 0 points suggested and much better than a lot of the league imo. I think the positives we saw in the previous two games far outweigh the shocking 40 minutes or so yesterday but it is going to take a lot of work. That is why most of us expected nothing better than 12th this season when asked earlier in the summer, and it is not going to be plain sailing. I am still very encouraged by the work Lambert is doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morpheus Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Thats the word 'consistency!' Now how do you get that? I would assume by firstly choosing a system which your players are comfortable with and then buying players who will fit into that system. Against Newcastle and Swansea we could all see what Lambert was attempting to do and the players knew their specific jobs within that system so why flippin change it to accommodate a target man and drop a young forward who was bursting a gut for you. You will not get consistency until you stop tinkering! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 There were always likely to be big bumps on the way this season. Saints to be fair this season have looked half-decent, much better than 0 points suggested and much better than a lot of the league imo. I think the positives we saw in the previous two games far outweigh the shocking 40 minutes or so yesterday but it is going to take a lot of work. That is why most of us expected nothing better than 12th this season when asked earlier in the summer, and it is not going to be plain sailing. I am still very encouraged by the work Lambert is doing.Trouble is, if we can't pick up points from teams like Southampton, we are not going to get enough points to make anything like 12th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Next 4 games we MUST pick up some wins as November looks a brutal month Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 There were always likely to be big bumps on the way this season. Saints to be fair this season have looked half-decent, much better than 0 points suggested and much better than a lot of the league imo. I think the positives we saw in the previous two games far outweigh the shocking 40 minutes or so yesterday but it is going to take a lot of work. That is why most of us expected nothing better than 12th this season when asked earlier in the summer, and it is not going to be plain sailing. I am still very encouraged by the work Lambert is doing.Trouble is, if we can't pick up points from teams like Southampton, we are not going to get enough points to make anything like 12th. Trust me we will pick up plenty of points, especially from the new year onwards and especially at home Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 There were always likely to be big bumps on the way this season. Saints to be fair this season have looked half-decent, much better than 0 points suggested and much better than a lot of the league imo. I think the positives we saw in the previous two games far outweigh the shocking 40 minutes or so yesterday but it is going to take a lot of work. That is why most of us expected nothing better than 12th this season when asked earlier in the summer, and it is not going to be plain sailing. I am still very encouraged by the work Lambert is doing.Trouble is, if we can't pick up points from teams like Southampton, we are not going to get enough points to make anything like 12th.Teams have bad games sometimes. Just because we lose 4-1 to Southampton one week doesn't mean we can't win the next game against a superior team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillanousOne Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 There were always likely to be big bumps on the way this season. Saints to be fair this season have looked half-decent, much better than 0 points suggested and much better than a lot of the league imo. I think the positives we saw in the previous two games far outweigh the shocking 40 minutes or so yesterday but it is going to take a lot of work. That is why most of us expected nothing better than 12th this season when asked earlier in the summer, and it is not going to be plain sailing. I am still very encouraged by the work Lambert is doing.Trouble is, if we can't pick up points from teams like Southampton, we are not going to get enough points to make anything like 12th.Teams have bad games sometimes. Just because we lose 4-1 to Southampton one week doesn't mean we can't win the next game against a superior team. ha ha, i'll have what you're on please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 There were always likely to be big bumps on the way this season. Saints to be fair this season have looked half-decent, much better than 0 points suggested and much better than a lot of the league imo. I think the positives we saw in the previous two games far outweigh the shocking 40 minutes or so yesterday but it is going to take a lot of work. That is why most of us expected nothing better than 12th this season when asked earlier in the summer, and it is not going to be plain sailing. I am still very encouraged by the work Lambert is doing.Trouble is, if we can't pick up points from teams like Southampton, we are not going to get enough points to make anything like 12th.Teams have bad games sometimes. Just because we lose 4-1 to Southampton one week doesn't mean we can't win the next game against a superior team. ha ha, i'll have what you're on pleaseWhat? :? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P3te Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 There were always likely to be big bumps on the way this season. Saints to be fair this season have looked half-decent, much better than 0 points suggested and much better than a lot of the league imo. I think the positives we saw in the previous two games far outweigh the shocking 40 minutes or so yesterday but it is going to take a lot of work. That is why most of us expected nothing better than 12th this season when asked earlier in the summer, and it is not going to be plain sailing. I am still very encouraged by the work Lambert is doing.Trouble is, if we can't pick up points from teams like Southampton, we are not going to get enough points to make anything like 12th. i dont think that's the case tbh. we'll drop points against the likes of southampton, then pick up points against surprising teams. that's the hallmark of inconsistency - complete unpredictability. at the moment there are 2 villas, the villa who played newcastle, swansea and tranmere, and the villa who played everton, west ham and southampton. it's a 50/50 split with which one you're going to get on any given day right now, on another day we could have beaten southampton 4-1, and been murdered by swansea that's going to be the story of our season, so we'll have to get used to it, but just because the teams who beat us are seen as "relegation fodder" or the teams we beat might be pushing for europe, doesn't make us as bad or as good as them respectively. on our day we're very good, on our off days we're awful, the trick is to make the latter a lot less common, and that'll gradually happen as the season progresses winning a game doesnt mean we're going to finish 6th no more than losing one means we'll be relegated - regardless of opposition Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Well said P3te. Finally some sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_John_10 Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 winning a game doesnt mean we're going to finish 6th no more than losing one means we'll be relegated - regardless of opposition How about losing 3 out of 5? Because I don't think anyone is basing their worry of relegation on just one game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KjParton Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 winning a game doesnt mean we're going to finish 6th no more than losing one means we'll be relegated - regardless of opposition How about losing 3 out of 5? Because I don't think anyone is basing their worry of relegation on just one game. Ah yes the premier league season, consisting of 5 games . Looks like we're relegated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_John_10 Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 I know what you're saying. There is a long way to go. My point was though, that people aren't basing their worries soley on the southampton defeat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 winning a game doesnt mean we're going to finish 6th no more than losing one means we'll be relegated - regardless of opposition How about losing 3 out of 5? Because I don't think anyone is basing their worry of relegation on just one game.P3te was responding to this Trouble is, if we can't pick up points from teams like Southampton, we are not going to get enough points to make anything like 12th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 There were always likely to be big bumps on the way this season. Saints to be fair this season have looked half-decent, much better than 0 points suggested and much better than a lot of the league imo. I think the positives we saw in the previous two games far outweigh the shocking 40 minutes or so yesterday but it is going to take a lot of work. That is why most of us expected nothing better than 12th this season when asked earlier in the summer, and it is not going to be plain sailing. I am still very encouraged by the work Lambert is doing.Trouble is, if we can't pick up points from teams like Southampton, we are not going to get enough points to make anything like 12th. i dont think that's the case tbh. we'll drop points against the likes of southampton, then pick up points against surprising teams. that's the hallmark of inconsistency - complete unpredictability. at the moment there are 2 villas, the villa who played newcastle, swansea and tranmere, and the villa who played everton, west ham and southampton. it's a 50/50 split with which one you're going to get on any given day right now, on another day we could have beaten southampton 4-1, and been murdered by swansea that's going to be the story of our season, so we'll have to get used to it, but just because the teams who beat us are seen as "relegation fodder" or the teams we beat might be pushing for europe, doesn't make us as bad or as good as them respectively. on our day we're very good, on our off days we're awful, the trick is to make the latter a lot less common, and that'll gradually happen as the season progresses winning a game doesnt mean we're going to finish 6th no more than losing one means we'll be relegated - regardless of opposition some good points there Hopefully as we develop 3 losses in 5 will reduce... its so early. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Thats the word 'consistency!' Now how do you get that? I would assume by firstly choosing a system which your players are comfortable with and then buying players who will fit into that system. Against Newcastle and Swansea we could all see what Lambert was attempting to do and the players knew their specific jobs within that system so why flippin change it to accommodate a target man and drop a young forward who was bursting a gut for you. You will not get consistency until you stop tinkering! I take your point, but is it tinkering or is it getting all your players match fit/ gelled up for when injuries /suspensions arrive. hindsight is an exact science. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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