villaajax Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 Would George bush jnr be considered a terrorist ? No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarewsEyebrowDesigner Posted June 23, 2013 Share Posted June 23, 2013 Mandela's health has deteriorated to critical. Looks like his time is up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meath_Villan Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 (edited) Id say the lad has passed and there just buying time to move police etc around into place for what will probably be huge scale mourning and civil unrest Edited June 24, 2013 by Meath_Villan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted June 24, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted June 24, 2013 RIP Bobby "Blue" Bland... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVOpKKokvm0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awol Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 Id say the lad has passed and there just buying time to move police etc around into place for what will probably be huge scale mourning and civil unrest Lots of South Africans I know maintain that more extreme black groups have promised to attack random white people when Mandela passes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drat01 Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 Id say the lad has passed and there just buying time to move police etc around into place for what will probably be huge scale mourning and civil unrest Lots of South Africans I know maintain that more extreme black groups have promised to attack random white people when Mandela passes. Absolute bollox Rhetoric like that really does piss me off and is borderline racist in it's context. I have worked a lot in SA, I will be working down there very soon again. Like any country that has come from such a repressive (right wing racist) regime will take time to adjust to the freedoms it now enjoys. Mandella is certainly seen as a icon but his lack of visibility and influence over the past few years show that the country is certainly progressing. Mandella is more now a set of ideas rather than a influence 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 I also find that claim hard to believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awol Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 I also find that claim hard to believe. Having never been there I have no idea if extremist groups are planning attacks to mark his passing or not, but I know plenty of people who believe it to be likely and the fact that the rumours are out there is indisputable - as a quick Google shows: Fear of mayhem after Mandela’s death While the country waits with bated breath for news of Nelson Mandela’s health, some South Africans breathe a sigh of relief when they learn that the ailing statesman’s condition is improving. Because these South Africans live in fear of the day Mandela dies. It is widespread. Search the words “fear, Mandela and death” and the headings of websites include “Blacks will massacre whites after Mandela’s death”, “South Africans fear Mandela’s death” and “White genocide after Mandela’s death in SA?” There are thousands of websites from interest groups to social networks and news sites. It happens whenever Mandela is admitted to hospital. There is a fear on the part of some white people that black people will no longer hold back - that they will wield sjamboks, knives and guns and take what they believe is owed to them. It will be chaos, they say; the country will burn. Far right organisations warn white people to be prepared, protect their families, unless they have handed in their firearms as the ANC government requested a few years ago. This, they say, was the government’s plan all along. This week Media 24 reported how the SANDF had been placed on standby after a secret contingency plan kicked in when Mandela took ill. Soldiers were warned to prepare themselves about 10 days ago, before Mandela was even admitted to hospital. Most notable were the comments from ordinary citizens expressing fear. One user, Oamis Lacad Ariedlac, wrote that the story of “uhuru” against the white population was widespread. “I’ve been informed that payback is on it’s way after Mandela departs. All we need is a small group of like-minded individuals to fulfil this prophecy. I hope I’m wrong, but reality cannot be ignored, nor the high level of impoverishment/ dissatisfaction at grass roots level. Now with Malema and his ilk seeking a following, more fiery rhetoric will be expected, further exacerbating the potential for conflict.” Leon Wolfe wrote: “The poorest of the poor will use it as an excuse to loot, the stupidest of the stupid will use it as an excuse to murder. The ANC will run away, the US (already on their way) will use it as an excuse to “restore order” and secure SA’s mineral resources for themselves. And then it’s going to hit the fan. Sing your praises about harmony and ubuntu if you like. See the number of violent service delivery protests as an example of the reigning mentality in this country. Be ready or be dead.” The reports stretch from as far afield as Australia, the UK and the US. This is what some South Africans are telling them. Earlier this year Father Sebastian Rossouw, of the Regina Mundi Catholic Church in Soweto expressed his fear to The Australian: “Many of us fear that what he stood for will also die. It’s a concern that when Mandela goes there will be a threat of civil war. People are concerned that if he dies, will we still have democracy? Will we still have peace?” Ernst Roets, deputy chief executive of racial minority rights group AfriForum, told The Guardian that peacekeeping organisations are working to resolve people’s concerns. “We get a lot of fear. We do get calls from people saying they’re scared about the day Mandela dies and what they should do. There are fringe organisations that say ‘flee the country’. We are encouraging people to be aware and look after their own safety.” Political commentator Max du Preez was lambasted after he criticised the naysayers. “A softer version of the ‘white genocide’ scare is that the ANC would regard the end of Mandela as a kind of licence to start behaving like Zimbabwe’s Zanu-PF because the last voice of tolerance, reason and reconciliation had fallen silent. Even more moderate people believe Mandela’s death would lead to a sharp decline in the worth of the rand and the stock exchange,” he wrote. “I suspect the only consequence of Mandela’s death is going to be a period of sadness, nostalgia and a feeling of national coherence. It will remind South Africans of all groups and persuasions of the almost miraculous transition from apartheid to democracy and of the golden era under his presidency after 1994.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarewsEyebrowDesigner Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 Fear mongering bollocks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted June 24, 2013 Moderator Share Posted June 24, 2013 RIP Prof Mick Aston, son of the Midlands (Oldbury) and did much to popularise archeology with the general public through Time Team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rev Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 Is that that awful show on Channel 4 where Baldrick spends an hour every Sunday digging a hole with a paintbrush? No disrespect, but if that was the most exciting thing in Prof Mick Aston's life then no wonder he died. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted June 24, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted June 24, 2013 RIP Prof Mick Aston, son of the Midlands (Oldbury) and did much to popularise archeology with the general public through Time Team That's quite sad to hear. In fairness he'd been fairly sickly throughout his life, but still be a bit weird knowing he's gone. Time Team was always fairly popular in our house, it was often surprisingly interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villaajax Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 Is that that awful show on Channel 4 where Baldrick spends an hour every Sunday digging a hole with a paintbrush? No disrespect, but if that was the most exciting thing in Prof Mick Aston's life then no wonder he died. You can only watch them dig up so many bits of a Roman pot every episode before it gets a bit samey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rev Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 The do draw what the walls might have looked like on a computer though, so there is that. Actually, no. It's shite. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ingram85 Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 RIP Mick. I'll miss your awful jumpers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 Almost as bad as programmes about ancient Egypt where "experts" speculate about the personalities of the deceased. Waste of time and effort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drat01 Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 Almost as bad as programmes about ancient Egypt where "experts" speculate about the personalities of the deceased. Waste of time and effort. They tell you what he sphinx 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ingram85 Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 Or if he was a dodgy Giza I'm sorry. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 Or if he was a dodgy Giza I'm sorry. I think the person you got the "like" from for that says it all but, I'd imagine we will get a pharaoh few puns in this thread now 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ingram85 Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 Amun to that, Anubis would turn into a pun thread sooner or later, Bes Geb the hell out of here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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