Stevo985 Posted May 14, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted May 14, 2013 Roy Hodgson was on Goals on Sunday this week and pretty much just came out and said Lambert and Holt won't get a look in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 sort of got a point though, Holt has done **** all this season except try injure people. Lambert could be same next season. If Lambert has a similar season next year then he should get a call up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted May 14, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted May 14, 2013 I agree. Them getting a cap would almost just be a token gesture. Not trying to be harsh, but it would be like when Davies got an England cap. Fair play to him, he's done well in his career and you could say he deserved it. But he was never going to make himself a permanent fixture in the side, and neither would Holt or Lambert. It doesn't really fit in with the supposed direction of building a young team for the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimzk5 Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 Jay bothroyd got an England cap. Still can't work that one out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRS-T Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 Why do these guys need to do it for 2 whole seasons to get a call up? If are you are young, English and play for a top 5 club + Liverpool, you get a call up without doing anything. I mean Jake Livermore has played for England this season Even people like Martin Kelly and Jonjo Shelvey get called up. Lambert has scored 14 goals in the Premier League this season while Welbeck has 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 I don't think Welbeck warrants a call up but if I were England manager I wouldn't call up Lambert either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legov Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 Welbeck brings more to the team than goals though, he's a very intelligent player imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 I might be wrong but isnt Welbeck Englands top scorer last year? After Rooney he is probably England best striker with Sturridge behind him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtsimonw Posted May 15, 2013 Author Share Posted May 15, 2013 as I said in the transfer thread, McManaman lacks composure in the final 3rd to even be a good signing for us. Albrighton had a better season a few years ago and no way he would have got near England squad I think you're being a bit harsh on McManaman. He's far better on the ball than Albrighton and can actually beat a man. It doesn't surprise me at all that Wigan dominated for 15 minutes or so after HT then completely collapse when he got injured. Very good player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jadenb42 Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 Wellbeck is gash offers nothing, runs around like a headless chicken half the time. Had a shit season this year. He is one of those players who only get picked because who he plays for. Put him in any team below the top 6 and you would never hear of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtsimonw Posted May 16, 2013 Author Share Posted May 16, 2013 I think sometimes it's a tough call though. People for years and years have whinged that Lampard and Gerrard are shit for England and shouldn't be played - but they earn their call ups by being amongst the best players in the World at club level. Now people complain saying Wellbeck or whoever doesn't deserve a call up - despite him keeping his place due to the goals he's been scoring for England over the past year. So which is it, should people deserve a place through their club performance or their England performance? Because it's going to be rare a player is a beast for both club and country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRS-T Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 Same old same old from Roy Hodgson. Welbeck over Agbonlahor. Oxlade-Chamberlain over McManaman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted May 16, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted May 16, 2013 Someone on Twitter posted "Most exciting England team in ages"... so I quickly started watching sky sports news only to see it's the exact same team as always. So dull. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 Welbeck is possibly the worst 'winger' I've ever seen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarpie Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 Someone on Twitter posted "Most exciting England team in ages"... so I quickly started watching sky sports news only to see it's the exact same team as always. So dull. Exciting maybe if you get excited by watching paint to dry too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 Welbeck is possibly the worst 'winger' I've ever seen He is a natural striker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 Welbeck is possibly the worst 'winger' I've ever seen He is a natural striker Who has been played on the wing all season. And he's been dreadful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted May 16, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted May 16, 2013 I think calling Wellbeck dreadful is harsh. He has his moments, and does a lot for the team that goes unnoticed because he doesn't get goals. That's not to say he deserves to be in the ENgland squad, but he is a decent player. He was brilliant against Real Madrid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRS-T Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 Welbeck is possibly the worst 'winger' I've ever seen He is a natural striker So are Walcott and Gabby. Yet they have to play and wide and they manage more than 1 goal all season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 Weimann and him play exactly the same role, yet Weimann has 8 goals more. And Welbeck plays in a far better team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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