HanoiVillan Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 1 minute ago, Zatman said: Lenglet, Digne and Diaby have won league titles Were they actually starting all or nearly all of the games for the clubs concerned in that season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oishiiniku_uk Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 2 hours ago, HanoiVillan said: It's (obviously) harder to win the league than to finish in the top 4. I'm not disputing that it's harder to win the league - although I'd argue it has more to do with 'elite' levels of investment than a winning mentality these days - but the original post stated Danny Murphy said we wouldn't win the title OR finish top four based on the fact we'd not been in this position before. And Newcastle did just that, which Mr Murphy says is not possible, only last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rds1983 Posted January 16 VT Supporter Share Posted January 16 2 hours ago, HanoiVillan said: It's not remotely the same situation. In 15/16... At 21 gameweeks, Leicester were joint top, not two points off it. In the end the clubs that got closest to Leicester were Arsenal and Spurs, two other sides with no experience of winning a league. I'd say these points actually show that Murphy is talking nonsense and having that experience is crucial to winning a league. I'd argue the reason City have won it so much recently isn't because they have that experience, but more that they have better resources and larger/fuller squads. They're better placed for the tail end of the season as they'll have fresher players who are less burnt out due to better rotation. You only need to look how we used to explode under MON at the end of each season to see how much this can affect teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 1 hour ago, oishiiniku_uk said: I'm not disputing that it's harder to win the league - although I'd argue it has more to do with 'elite' levels of investment than a winning mentality these days - but the original post stated Danny Murphy said we wouldn't win the title OR finish top four based on the fact we'd not been in this position before. And Newcastle did just that, which Mr Murphy says is not possible, only last season. Okay, fair enough, I hadn't seen the bit about top 4, and I think you're right that he's on weaker ground with that. 1 hour ago, Rds1983 said: I'd say these points actually show that Murphy is talking nonsense and having that experience is crucial to winning a league. I'd argue the reason City have won it so much recently isn't because they have that experience, but more that they have better resources and larger/fuller squads. They're better placed for the tail end of the season as they'll have fresher players who are less burnt out due to better rotation. You only need to look how we used to explode under MON at the end of each season to see how much this can affect teams. It doesn't need to be either/or. Things can have multiple causes; no reason mentality and experience cannot be another factor alongside squad size or player quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinker Posted January 16 VT Supporter Share Posted January 16 4 hours ago, oishiiniku_uk said: Danny Murphy said Dear God the man's a complete idiot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 Eni Aluko as good as gone into hiding out the country, citing she may press charges against Barton, as she now don't feel safe in the UK. Apart from no one else really giving a f*** what Joey Barton says. She does know social media is all around the world, not just in the UK yeah?? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Django_Zooms Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 Lucy Ward compared to Ally McCoist as ITV FA Cup pundits: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 4 minutes ago, Django_Zooms said: Lucy Ward compared to Ally McCoist as ITV FA Cup pundits: To be fair, McCoist is one of the better pundits, apart from his love affair with every player whos half decent. If you can listen to Lucy Ward commentate on a football match, screaming everytime someone has a shot on goal, or scores, your a braver guy than I am. An that's no disrespect to women commentators, it's disrespect to her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Django_Zooms Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 13 minutes ago, foreveryoung said: To be fair, McCoist is one of the better pundits, apart from his love affair with every player whos half decent. If you can listen to Lucy Ward commentate on a football match, screaming everytime someone has a shot on goal, or scores, your a braver guy than I am. An that's no disrespect to women commentators, it's disrespect to her. We must have different TV audio feeds. McCoist only repeats what he has just seen or heard. Ward analyses tactics & provides insights Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imavillan Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 43 minutes ago, foreveryoung said: Eni Aluko as good as gone into hiding out the country, citing she may press charges against Barton, as she now don't feel safe in the UK. Apart from no one else really giving a f*** what Joey Barton says. She does know social media is all around the world, not just in the UK yeah?? she really is one of, if not the worst 'pundit' ever to grace the tv screens. She doesn't need Joey Barton telling her she's rubbish, all of social media does that and with the comments and faux pas she comes out with she brings it on her self. She's the square root of useless. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 3 minutes ago, imavillan said: she really is one of, if not the worst 'pundit' ever to grace the tv screens. She doesn't need Joey Barton telling her she's rubbish, all of social media does that and with the comments and faux pas she comes out with she brings it on her self. She's the square root of useless. As harsh as it sounds, she has definately been brought in to tick the box, unless it's for sympathy, as she lost alot of close friends/players when she decided to sue the FA and Mark Sampson. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 9 minutes ago, foreveryoung said: As harsh as it sounds, she has definately been brought in to tick the box, unless it's for sympathy, as she lost alot of close friends/players when she decided to sue the FA and Mark Sampson. yet the FA paid out compensation and apologised to how she was treated. a final investigation also indicates that she was right probably not the type of friends you want in life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWARLEY2 Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 Jason Momoa meets his all time hero. Guitar legend Flash. Tnt sports lady presenter hitting it out of the park yet again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giro Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 Just watched this, absolutely brilliant from nedum onuoha talking about punditry and how football is viewed Even calls joey Barton out for what he is as well 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 An unsurprising but disgraceful showing again from the media with Toney return 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theboyangel Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 1 hour ago, Zatman said: An unsurprising but disgraceful showing again from the media with Toney return Absolutely and in the same week, they’ve all fawned over Henderson leaving Saudi with his tail between his legs and joining Ajax. The media have their favourites and seem hellbent on pushing their rhetoric onto the masses. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 He's only the media favourite because he's a good footballer. If he was an average striker nobody would care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 David Brooks, cancer survivor. Almost no coverage Ivan Toney, cheat. Fawning. sickening honestly 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 7 hours ago, Giro said: Just watched this, absolutely brilliant from nedum onuoha talking about punditry and how football is viewed Even calls joey Barton out for what he is as well Onuoha's so far out in front of every other pundit it's embarrassing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 2 hours ago, PaulC said: He's only the media favourite because he's a good footballer. If he was an average striker nobody would care. Kevin De Bruyne is a better footballer and didnt get any news for his comeback especially considering Toney is a complete piece of shit and was banned for gambling against his team among others Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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