Shaw_nuff Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Maybe he should try the Mcgrath approach: Never train and get so blotto you can't feel any pain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 I thought he was awful. We just looked shambolic at the back. Worse when he was out but still thought he was poor that first year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodytom Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Maybe he should try the Mcgrath approach: Never train and get so blotto you can't feel any pain. Wasn't really old enough to appreciate McGrath but it does my head in when footballers choose to drink, and then you consider how good they could/should have been. The season richard dunne sacked the booze he was immense. Pretty sure Richard Hughes liked a beer before sacking it off and bossing flat racing. On that note, I'm off for a jar. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimzk5 Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 He's in the bracket with Cuellar, Dunne & Collins in terms of qualities of center half's we've had. Below the likes of god and better than ridgewell & Clark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Another injury shock horror. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Albert Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Vlaar is a good player and were no doubt a better side with him in it. That is down to the state of our side at moment and lack of quality in it,not because he's a mellberg/laursen player. I believe with any half decent experienced defender we wouldn't be any worse off. The Trouble will be getting the money of randy Lerner to replace him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexbelowsound Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Vlaar is a good player and were no doubt a better side with him in it. That is down to the state of our side at moment and lack of quality in it,not because he's a mellberg/laursen player. I believe with any half decent experienced defender we wouldn't be any worse off. The Trouble will be getting the money of randy Lerner to replace him. I think we have probably already replaced him with Senderos. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodytom Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Which shows how great he is not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ermie123 Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Vlaar was made to look good in the Holland team as he had players around him that covered for him he's just an average defender if he had of been any good why would he have come to us???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSV Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 (edited) So he's leaving and he's shit now? He's a bis loss but is replaceable. Younger fitter player hopefully. Edited November 13, 2014 by KSV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Some of these comments are frankly bizarre. Sure you can question his overall value as a player due to his injury record but it's staggering how some can still so badly underestimate his ability. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Some of these comments are frankly bizarre. Sure you can question his overall value as a player due to his injury record but it's staggering how some can still so badly underestimate his ability. Why? He's rarely performed to a really high standard in a villa shirt. He's had stand out games and good performances but consistently he's done very little to improve our defence. Its always been blamed on the players around him but I think vlaar has to take his fair share of responsibility. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Some of these comments are frankly bizarre. Sure you can question his overall value as a player due to his injury record but it's staggering how some can still so badly underestimate his ability. Why? He's rarely performed to a really high standard in a villa shirt. He's had stand out games and good performances but consistently he's done very little to improve our defence. Its always been blamed on the players around him but I think vlaar has to take his fair share of responsibility. I'd argue the opposite and say that he often performs to a high standard in a Villa shirt - his biggest problem is that he just gets injured a bit too often. Our defence is poor in spite of Vlaar, not because of him. I honestly don't think taking him out of it would improve it in any way and in fact the stats show that without him everything gets much much worse. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw_nuff Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Vlaar was made to look good in the Holland team as he had players around him that covered for him he's just an average defender if he had of been any good why would he have come to us???? Why did McGrath come to Villa? Same reason - dodgy injury record and a bit of a risk. Vlaar's a very good player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 I know this is irrational (so no need to tell me) but all football agents are snakes and it really upsets me that a decent bloke like Ron has a snake just like all the rest. I know, irrational and naive, you don't need to tell me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw_nuff Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 I know this is irrational (so no need to tell me) but all football agents are snakes and it really upsets me that a decent bloke like Ron has a snake just like all the rest. I know, irrational and naive, you don't need to tell me. It's not irrational. Football agents are leeching c**ts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 He's in the bracket with Cuellar, Dunne & Collins in terms of qualities of center half's we've had. Below the likes of god and better than ridgewell & Clark. I'd say that's fair tbh. Harsh on the first year. Yes he wasn't great but look at the YTS kids that made up the back 4, Bennett, Lowton and Baker two years ago, Cannavaro and Thiago Silva would struggle amongst that rabble. One thing we will miss is his composure at the back, he passes it well and I never have any worries he's going to lose the ball doing something idiotic which isn't something you can say about our other CBs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Him and Senderos have played well together for the few minutes they've managed to be fit and on the pitch at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodytom Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 I know this is irrational (so no need to tell me) but all football agents are snakes and it really upsets me that a decent bloke like Ron has a snake just like all the rest. I know, irrational and naive, you don't need to tell me. Pretty sure that Ron is his own man and could tell his agent to **** off if he was loyal to villa. After all, we've given him more than enough for a decent pension. My guess is, he's as greedy as his agent, and whilst I don't blame him whatsoever, let's not pretend his manipulated in this process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomaspg Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 Cant expect someone whos been here for a couple of years to be that loyal can you? Hes done a good job here but lets face it, hes never going to get close to any trophy here and its not like we have paid him well enough to stay. We should be happy for the time hes been here and wish him all the best for the future 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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