Isa Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 Ive got a mate in portsmouth who is a saints fan he said virgil van dijk is there main target but vlaar is a potential target he also reckobed the dismantling of the saints team will make it difficult for koeman to temp vlaar. Not sure how true but no need to lie Due to Lovren's departure, they are after two new centre-backs so the likely signing of Van Dijk wouldn't affect any potential deal for Vlaar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SikhInTrinity Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 I honestly can't see Vlaar signing a new contract under our current regime. Best we can hope for is for him to see out this year and see what happens if we get new owners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 hope roncrete stays as he is a real crowd favourite im more concerned about united coming in for him then southampton. can see it happening as he wont go for much and LVG likes him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 Ive got a mate in portsmouth who is a saints fan he said virgil van dijk is there main target but vlaar is a potential target he also reckobed the dismantling of the saints team will make it difficult for koeman to temp vlaar. Not sure how true but no need to lie Due to Lovren's departure, they are after two new centre-backs so the likely signing of Van Dijk wouldn't affect any potential deal for Vlaar. Are they? How do you know this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isa Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 Are they? How do you know this? I've read a few press articles that suggest such. It makes sense also because Yoshida and Hooiveld are shite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KjParton Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 I'd hope he'd stay for 45k pw, but in reality he could quite easily get 60-70k a week at Saints or another club. 45k still isn't up there with Delph and Gabby's contracts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 I'd hope he'd stay for 45k pw, but in reality he could quite easily get 60-70k a week at Saints or another club. 45k still isn't up there with Delph and Gabby's contracts? No he couldn't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaForever1970 Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 I'd hope he'd stay for 45k pw, but in reality he could quite easily get 60-70k a week at Saints or another club. 45k still isn't up there with Delph and Gabby's contracts?Do you work for Saints or another club? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qwpzxjor1 Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 If he was being signed on a free, he could get 60-70k per week because there wouldn't be a transfer fee. However next year (when his contract is up) he will be both a year old, and not coming off the back of a brilliant World Cup. This is probably the most valuable he's ever been in his career, but that doesn't mean Villa will let him go cheap just because someone else will offer him more money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papillon Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 hope roncrete stays as he is a real crowd favourite im more concerned about united coming in for him then southampton. can see it happening as he wont go for much and LVG likes him I don't - at all. United have a fair bunch of players in Vlaar's bracket - and they are all younger than him. Jonny Evans is 26, Phil Jones is still only 22 years old and Smalling is 24. I think Evans has been very solid over the last few years, but Smalling and Jones took a huge step back under Moyes. Van Gaal will probably guide them in the right direction, and if they are going to make a new signing it is going to be someone who is much better than Ron Vlaar, luckily for us. The reason why I think van Gaal is going go get the best out of Jones/Smalling, is exactly the reason why he made Vlaar and the others in the Netherlands-squad defend so well. When I looked at their chances before the WC, I instantly wrote them off because of their defensive unit - but they played a certain system and utilized every bit of talent - or lack of it so to speak. Ron Vlaar is suddenly the new Franco Baresi on this forum, but go back 12 months and opinions were divided. He is injury-prone to a certain degree and he is reaching 30 right after Christmas - I don't think there's a huge chance of him going to a top, top club. I would however be infuriated if he went to someone like Southampton or Newcastle, that would kind of epitomize how far behind we have fallen these last few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 I would however be infuriated if he went to someone like Southampton or Newcastle, that would kind of epitomize how far behind we have fallen these last few years. It would epitomize how much money they have to spend relative to us, nothing more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isa Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 I would however be infuriated if he went to someone like Southampton or Newcastle, that would kind of epitomize how far behind we have fallen these last few years. It would epitomize how much money they have to spend relative to us, nothing more. Which in itself is a reflection of the said decline, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 United have a fair bunch of players in Vlaar's bracket - and they are all younger than him. Jonny Evans is 26, Phil Jones is still only 22 years old and Smalling is 24. I think Evans has been very solid over the last few years, but Smalling and Jones took a huge step back under Moyes. Van Gaal will probably guide them in the right direction, and if they are going to make a new signing it is going to be someone who is much better than Ron Vlaar, luckily for us. The reason why I think van Gaal is going go get the best out of Jones/Smalling, is exactly the reason why he made Vlaar and the others in the Netherlands-squad defend so well. When I looked at their chances before the WC, I instantly wrote them off because of their defensive unit - but they played a certain system and utilized every bit of talent - or lack of it so to speak. the problem is smalling and jones are always injured, i think LVG would be crazy not to sign another cb. its not just the world cup he knows vlaar and knows how to get best of him. add the fact he is cheap and experienced and ticks all the boxes for where united are at the moment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArteSuave Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 Ron Vlaar is suddenly the new Franco Baresi on this forum, but go back 12 months and opinions were divided. He is injury-prone to a certain degree Nobody thinks he's Baresi, opinion is still divided. Some fans make snap decisions on a players ability and then steadfastly stand by that opinion no matter what evidence arises. He's not injury prone either to any significant degree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVTuco Posted August 5, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted August 5, 2014 Statistics don't lie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 (edited) I would however be infuriated if he went to someone like Southampton or Newcastle, that would kind of epitomize how far behind we have fallen these last few years. It would epitomize how much money they have to spend relative to us, nothing more. Which in itself is a reflection of the said decline, no? Not really. We could spend £25m this summer but that wouldn't suddenly make the decline disappear. The lack of transfer funds is clearly down to the fact that Lerner wants out. I just think this "how far we've fallen" mantra gets shoehorned into places where it isn't necessarily relevant. Newcastle aren't exactly in a much better state than decline-wise us but they have more to spend because their ownership situation is stable. Statistics don't lie. He's not as injury prone as some like to make out though. A big chunk of his absences were down to that one long injury he had in his first season when he was out for about 2 months, which included the busy December period. Edited August 5, 2014 by Mantis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArteSuave Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 Statistics don't lie. What statistics are they then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isa Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 Not really. We could spend £25m this summer but that wouldn't suddenly make the decline disappear. The lack of transfer funds is clearly down to the fact that Lerner wants out. I just think this "how far we've fallen" mantra gets shoehorned into places where it isn't necessarily relevant. Newcastle aren't exactly in a much better state than decline-wise us but they have more to spend because their ownership situation is stable. The reasons for the withdrawal of transfer funds here doesn't change the fact that such a policy has indeed resulted in a decline though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted August 5, 2014 Moderator Share Posted August 5, 2014 Statistics don't lie. Check out the Bannan thread 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted August 5, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted August 5, 2014 He's one of our best players. Given that our side is so poor, that isn't saying much, but still. And this is Villa. We ALWAYS sell our best players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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