Mantis Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 I think we've improved, but not as much as some other teams. Also, getting the team playing Lambert's way will take time, whereas adopting McLeish-style hoofball is easier (and we were already kind of used to it anyway). However, in the long-run Lambert's approach is a lot better. So where do you expect us to finish?12th to 15th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smetrov Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 Were in for a chinese striker Foo Kin No Wan ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummieboy1 Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 Were in for a chinese striker Foo Kin No Wan ! and not Foo Kin No Wai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_John_10 Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 I think we've improved, but not as much as some other teams. Also, getting the team playing Lambert's way will take time, whereas adopting McLeish-style hoofball is easier (and we were already kind of used to it anyway). However, in the long-run Lambert's approach is a lot better. So where do you expect us to finish?12th to 15th. Seems a bit low compared to your expectation that any half decent manager could have finished 9th to 13th with the squad last year. You think the window has been ok and we've improved and I'm sure you believe lambert is better than any half decent manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentMajority Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 And: Mat Kendrick @MatKendrick The Christian Benteke transfer is not dead and the Genk striker is keen to join Villa, but the clubs are still apart with their valuations Going to guess this will be a last minute signing... 10.30ish posted on the OS! When I say guess... It could also read hope! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 I think we've improved, but not as much as some other teams. Also, getting the team playing Lambert's way will take time, whereas adopting McLeish-style hoofball is easier (and we were already kind of used to it anyway). However, in the long-run Lambert's approach is a lot better. So where do you expect us to finish?12th to 15th. Seems a bit low compared to your expectation that any half decent manager could have finished 9th to 13th with the squad last year. You think the window has been ok and we've improved and I'm sure you believe lambert is better than any half decent manager.As I said, Lambert is trying to implement a new style. That will take time and there will be bumps along the way. I think we'll start to see the benefits more next season. Same with the new European scout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PompeyVillan Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 I agree with Peter. Maybe on paper the window has been underwhelming, but the shift in philosophy and Lambert being willing to drag the club into the 20th century is enough to convince me that we're heading in the right direction. We're so desperately in need of a change in philosophy that I'd accept failure from Lambert if it meant that in the future, we won't be playing the brand of direct football that has cost us a fortune and been largely unsuccessful. For us to remain a top flight team it needs to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 Still think we'll get an unexpected signing tomorrow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_John_10 Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 I think we've improved, but not as much as some other teams. Also, getting the team playing Lambert's way will take time, whereas adopting McLeish-style hoofball is easier (and we were already kind of used to it anyway). However, in the long-run Lambert's approach is a lot better. So where do you expect us to finish?12th to 15th. Seems a bit low compared to your expectation that any half decent manager could have finished 9th to 13th with the squad last year. You think the window has been ok and we've improved and I'm sure you believe lambert is better than any half decent manager.As I said, Lambert is trying to implement a new style. That will take time and there will be bumps along the way. I think we'll start to see the benefits more next season. Same with the new European scout. Your opinion which you can have. I just find it very strange that any half decent manager could possibly have got last years squad to 9th. But a better squad and a better manager can't be expected to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coops_AVFC Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 Still think we'll get an unexpected signing tomorrow But why do you think this Richard? Not asking for any particulars, just wonder why you feel this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avfc1982 Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 Still think we'll get an unexpected signing tomorrow But why do you think this Richard? Not asking for any particulars, just wonder why you feel this? He's hoping more like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 Funny, you say that like you're not. I think we are all wanting new players in aren't we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smetrov Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 Funny, you say that like you're not. I think we are all wanting new players in aren't we? Im not - I hoping a big busty wench will burst through the front door and straddle me................. perhaps there both longshots ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nabby Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 Hope your right Richard .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterms Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 Hope your right Richard .. Nah. Hope you're right Smetrov! Probably adds more to the sum of human happiness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 I think we've improved, but not as much as some other teams. Also, getting the team playing Lambert's way will take time, whereas adopting McLeish-style hoofball is easier (and we were already kind of used to it anyway). However, in the long-run Lambert's approach is a lot better. So where do you expect us to finish?12th to 15th. Seems a bit low compared to your expectation that any half decent manager could have finished 9th to 13th with the squad last year. You think the window has been ok and we've improved and I'm sure you believe lambert is better than any half decent manager.As I said, Lambert is trying to implement a new style. That will take time and there will be bumps along the way. I think we'll start to see the benefits more next season. Same with the new European scout. Your opinion which you can have. I just find it very strange that any half decent manager could possibly have got last years squad to 9th. But a better squad and a better manager can't be expected to.Possibly being the key word. 9th would obviously have been something of a best-case scenario. I've already explained. Lambert is implementing a whole new philosophy here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulver Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 Got an awful feeling we'll be trotting out the 'we tried, but we ran out of time' line of bullshit come Saturday am We've had all **** summer to get folks in and now with less than 24 hours to go we're up shit creek And we'll probably end up panic signing some turd like Doyle for 8m or something equally daft because of it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KHV Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 I agree with Peter. Maybe on paper the window has been underwhelming, but the shift in philosophy and Lambert being willing to drag the club into the 20th century is enough to convince me that we're heading in the right direction. We're so desperately in need of a change in philosophy that I'd accept failure from Lambert if it meant that in the future, we won't be playing the brand of direct football that has cost us a fortune and been largely unsuccessful. For us to remain a top flight team it needs to happen. I honestly think we will go down under Lambert. This change of philosophy cannot work with the players we have. Houllier tried this change and had to buy in Darren Bent to survive. He also had Downing and Young at his disposal. Unless Lambert brings in 4 or 5 players tomorrow and I am not on about players from Charlton or Chesterfield either then we are doomed to failure. Our defence and midfield are among the worst in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 Just hope we are not cut adrift by Jan. anything more than 3 points to gain to get out of the bottom three in Jan and we've no chance. We need to be at least level on points with the teams in our league (Wigan, Norwich, Southampton, maybe QPR) as the West Ham's and Stokes are going to pull ahead of us now. fulham and west Brom are miles away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 I agree with Peter. Maybe on paper the window has been underwhelming, but the shift in philosophy and Lambert being willing to drag the club into the 20th century is enough to convince me that we're heading in the right direction. We're so desperately in need of a change in philosophy that I'd accept failure from Lambert if it meant that in the future, we won't be playing the brand of direct football that has cost us a fortune and been largely unsuccessful. For us to remain a top flight team it needs to happen. I honestly think we will go down under Lambert. This change of philosophy cannot work with the players we have. Houllier tried this change and had to buy in Darren Bent to survive. He also had Downing and Young at his disposal. Unless Lambert brings in 4 or 5 players tomorrow and I am not on about players from Charlton or Chesterfield either then we are doomed to failure. Our defence and midfield are among the worst in the league. Don't know why you're using the Houllier example - by the end of his reign we had adjusted more or less and were playing well and winning games. Lambert is getting in the players he wants and it's ridiculous to write it off so soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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