Phil Silvers Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 52 minutes ago, Keyblade said: Unfair, because under Southgate, we closed the gap back between us and Spurs and surpassed Liverpool again I believe. Unfair, one was a future citeh player that needed an image boost for forthcoming mega brand association sponsorships, another was a flavour of the month BLM PR job, Southgate was told to pick them 100%, fairplay to TM, his stats are impressive for England, still gets treated like shite imo. Southgate is a gargantuan ignoramus with all the talent of marathon running fatboy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 9 minutes ago, Phil Silvers said: Unfair, one was a future citeh player that needed an image boost for forthcoming mega brand association sponsorships, another was a flavour of the month BLM PR job, Southgate was told to pick them 100%, fairplay to TM, his stats are impressive for England, still gets treated like shite imo. Southgate is a gargantuan ignoramus with all the talent of marathon running fatboy. There's also Watkins and Heaton. Also Mings got his first cap well before the Floyd incident and BLM so that's also unfair. Right after we got promoted actually which is quite remarkable for a defender if you think about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Silvers Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 Just now, Keyblade said: There's also Watkins and Heaton. Also Mings got his first cap well before the Floyd incident and BLM so that's also unfair. Right after we got promoted actually which is quite remarkable for a defender if you think about it. Completely agree, I haven't had a pop at big nose for a while and this seemed like a good spot. I think TM is underrated and makes more sense for a Southgate team then Stones and Maguire, I'd much prefer TM in and switch one of the DMs for an 8, I'd drop.sterling for another 8 too and go 433, we should be obliterating most teams. Hope he continues down the Watkins route, miles above anyone else below Harry Kant. Sorry to have jumped on your post Mr Keyblade. Anyway I'm way OT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 1 minute ago, Phil Silvers said: Completely agree, I haven't had a pop at big nose for a while and this seemed like a good spot. I think TM is underrated and makes more sense for a Southgate team then Stones and Maguire, I'd much prefer TM in and switch one of the DMs for an 8, I'd drop.sterling for another 8 too and go 433, we should be obliterating most teams. Hope he continues down the Watkins route, miles above anyone else below Harry Kant. Sorry to have jumped on your post Mr Keyblade. Anyway I'm way OT. I would have Mings over Stones, if only because he's match fit and Stones can't even get into his club side at the moment, but there's still a big club bias, not as strong as previous managers but it's there. Previous managers wouldn't have even called him up. I think Konsa isn't too far behind for a cap right now too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Silvers Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 9 minutes ago, Keyblade said: I would have Mings over Stones, if only because he's match fit and Stones can't even get into his club side at the moment, but there's still a big club bias, not as strong as previous managers but it's there. Previous managers wouldn't have even called him up. I think Konsa isn't too far behind for a cap right now too. Agree that Konza will be overlooked, white will become 3rd choice unfairly to others. I really do think that the big sponsors behind the big clubs have got the FA in their pockets and apply a lot of pressure to pick players, within reason though, even Southgate will demand a little balance to it, although he does his utmost to contradict this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 16 minutes ago, Phil Silvers said: Agree that Konza will be overlooked, white will become 3rd choice unfairly to others. I really do think that the big sponsors behind the big clubs have got the FA in their pockets and apply a lot of pressure to pick players, within reason though, even Southgate will demand a little balance to it, although he does his utmost to contradict this. White was very good at Brighton and deservedly called up to the England squad. Nothing "unfair" about it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Silvers Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 1 minute ago, bobzy said: White was very good at Brighton and deservedly called up to the England squad. Nothing "unfair" about it. Good for you and for him too. If he's a 50m player I'll eat my hat. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 Speaking as someone who really likes Mings, and wants to praise and support him as far as possible - the idea that he's better than Stones is miles off, sorry. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StewieGriffin Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 Stones is an absolute Rolls Royce centre back. He should be starting every England game if he's fit 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Silvers Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 1 hour ago, HanoiVillan said: Speaking as someone who really likes Mings, and wants to praise and support him as far as possible - the idea that he's better than Stones is miles off, sorry. 10 minutes ago, StewieGriffin said: Stones is an absolute Rolls Royce centre back. He should be starting every England game if he's fit He's Pickford with better hair. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Zatman Posted September 10, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted September 10, 2021 49 minutes ago, StewieGriffin said: Stones is an absolute Rolls Royce centre back. He should be starting every England game if he's fit that he is not, if I had a Rolls Royce like Stones I would be continually looking for a refund. Guy is dreadful 3 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Silvers Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 22 minutes ago, Zatman said: that he is not, if I had a Rolls Royce like Stones I would be continually looking for a refund. Guy is dreadful Back 3 of White Kane and Stones, Gareth special any day now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 2 hours ago, HanoiVillan said: Speaking as someone who really likes Mings, and wants to praise and support him as far as possible - the idea that he's better than Stones is miles off, sorry. Don't see why it couldn't be true. I don't necessarily think one is clear of the other, but lest we forget, before Ruben Diaz revived his reputation recently, Stones was constantly derided for his poor defending and considered a weak link in City's defence along with Otamendi. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 8 minutes ago, Keyblade said: Don't see why it couldn't be true. I don't necessarily think one is clear of the other, but lest we forget, before Ruben Diaz revived his reputation recently, Stones was constantly derided for his poor defending and considered a weak link in City's defence along with Otamendi. Stones is just better at keeping possession and distributing from defence, which for England as for Man City is more important than anything else because we have more possession in most games. If Mings played for Man City, he'd also be 3rd or 4th choice at the end of the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted September 10, 2021 Author Share Posted September 10, 2021 22 minutes ago, Keyblade said: Don't see why it couldn't be true. I don't necessarily think one is clear of the other, but lest we forget, before Ruben Diaz revived his reputation recently, Stones was constantly derided for his poor defending and considered a weak link in City's defence along with Otamendi. Useless in the air and was bullied a few times recently by Anwar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 19 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: Stones is just better at keeping possession and distributing from defence, which for England as for Man City is more important than anything else because we have more possession in most games. If Mings played for Man City, he'd also be 3rd or 4th choice at the end of the day. Declan Rice is even better, why not play him there? Didn't mean for that to sound so flippant, but what I'm getting at is that there should be a balance between ability on the ball vs defending I think. He might be better in possession, but at what cost? Besides, I think Mings is pretty good in possession as he shows for England when he isn't being asked by Dean Smith to play the ball into the channels for Ollie Watkins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 1 hour ago, Keyblade said: Declan Rice is even better, why not play him there? Didn't mean for that to sound so flippant, but what I'm getting at is that there should be a balance between ability on the ball vs defending I think. He might be better in possession, but at what cost? Besides, I think Mings is pretty good in possession as he shows for England when he isn't being asked by Dean Smith to play the ball into the channels for Ollie Watkins. I think Stones and Macguire distribution is better 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacketspuds Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 I wonder if there’s as much talk about Mings in the actual Mings thread as there is in this thread and the January transfer window thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Silvers Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 On 10/09/2021 at 19:08, StewieGriffin said: Stones is an absolute Rolls Royce centre back. He should be starting every England game if he's fit He's not a Rolls Royce, he doesn't even have a pair of tits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted September 12, 2021 Author Share Posted September 12, 2021 I see Stones hasnt even got off the bench all season, what a Rolls Royce to have Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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