Zatman Posted May 25, 2017 Author Share Posted May 25, 2017 17 minutes ago, mikeyp102 said: Clichy, Cabalerro, Sagna and Navas all released Caballero I dont understand, he isnt perfect but was the best goalkeeper they had this season and pretty much No.1 for last few months Navas will go back to Sevilla Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 Signed Bernando Silva for 60m. Everytime I watch him play he reminds me a lot of....David Silva so amusing to see both in the same team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 Could have got him for a quarter of the price a few years back, but this is the English way now, I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted May 26, 2017 Moderator Share Posted May 26, 2017 5 hours ago, VillaChris said: Signed Bernando Silva for 60m. Everytime I watch him play he reminds me a lot of....David Silva so amusing to see both in the same team. Seems Walker might be next for them too, around the 40 mark. As my mate said, when they start signing actual defenders [I'll] worry. They already have no problem scoring goals. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Midfielder Posted May 26, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted May 26, 2017 13 minutes ago, BOF said: Seems Walker might be next for them too, around the 40 mark. As my mate said, when they start signing actual defenders [I'll] worry. They already have no problem scoring goals. Good luck to the lad. he did well here in his loan and it definitely helped his career advance and force through at spurs. We've loaned players in the past and fine , they're off after. But Walker showed us respect a few times in press and in person when he could simply have not felt any need to do so. He did, and aside from liking him as a player I think the respect thing is a nice touch from the guy. Muddled my point but good luck to him if he does go. Got a lot of time for him. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 Jesus Navas out, Bernardo Silva in is a nice improvement. As long as you have the money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 Got to admit I've never heard of him, but I put that down to my dwindling interest in top level football! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 23 hours ago, VillaChris said: Signed Bernando Silva for 60m. Everytime I watch him play he reminds me a lot of....David Silva so amusing to see both in the same team. Super overrated IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 Walker for £40m is insane. He is not that good. There is just too much money in this game, it's frankly not enjoyable anymore. There was a time were footballers were far closer to normal people, where player valuations weren't approaching the size of a small-cap company. Not sure I can be arsed with football anymore. Whilst value's are sky rocketing the quality of football isn't improving, football is no better now than in the 80s and 90s. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 49 minutes ago, Xela said: Got to admit I've never heard of him, but I put that down to my dwindling interest in top level football! Yes long gone are the days where I used to watch Euro Goals on Europsort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest av1 Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 3 hours ago, Dr_Pangloss said: Walker for £40m is insane. He is not that good. Walker and Stones represent a combined outlay of £87m. Just let that sink in. WOW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 30 minutes ago, av1 said: Walker and Stones represent a combined outlay of £87m. Just let that sink in. WOW. And neither can defend! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest av1 Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 1 minute ago, Xela said: And neither can defend! Agreed. In the case of fullbacks, the defensive side of things has been taking a back seat for years. You look at Victor Moses at Chelsea, Antonio Valencia at UTD, both have great seasons, but both are essentially wingers. That aside, £40m for Walker is just staggering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 4 hours ago, Dr_Pangloss said: Walker for £40m is insane. He is not that good. There is just too much money in this game, it's frankly not enjoyable anymore. There was a time were footballers were far closer to normal people, where player valuations weren't approaching the size of a small-cap company. Not sure I can be arsed with football anymore. Whilst value's are sky rocketing the quality of football isn't improving, football is no better now than in the 80s and 90s. Agreed. While I don't blame the players, I'd be making hay while the sun shone as well if I was lucky enough to be a footballer, the 'product' on display is no better, and in my opinion, less enjoyable than it was say, 15-20 years ago. I hope in future it resets itself to a more sensible level, whatever that may be! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest av1 Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 1 minute ago, Xela said: I hope in future it resets itself to a more sensible level, whatever that may be! Not sure about that mate. People have said for years that the bubble has to burst, but i just don't see it. People will always watch football and subscriptions will only ever rise. The financial side will just keep rising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 4 hours ago, Dr_Pangloss said: Walker for £40m is insane. He is not that good. There is just too much money in this game, it's frankly not enjoyable anymore. There was a time were footballers were far closer to normal people, where player valuations weren't approaching the size of a small-cap company. Not sure I can be arsed with football anymore. Whilst value's are sky rocketing the quality of football isn't improving, football is no better now than in the 80s and 90s. Yes I like Walker but its insane and wages are insane. saw the documentary on the Celtic 67 European cup win. Different world much better though when fans and players were much closer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 2 minutes ago, av1 said: Not sure about that mate. People have said for years that the bubble has to burst, but i just don't see it. People will always watch football and subscriptions will only ever rise. The financial side will just keep rising. True enough, but I can't see how wages and transfers can keep increasing at such a rate. Players picking up £250k a week would seem fairly standard at the big clubs now, will that be £500k a week in 2 years? £1m a week in 5 years? Yet old Doris the tea lady in the office still earns the living wage. Fans will eventually get turned off by it. A lot of people my age I know (late 30's) are falling out of the love with the game and its not just Villa fans because we are shit, its fans of teams like Liverpool and Man Utd as well. The standard answer seems to be "Yeah I still follow them, but not as much as I used to". Obviously younger fans don't know another era and probably just refer to people like me as miserable bastards living in the past! It all seems to be built in TV money and if that ever stopped/reduced, it would fall down like a pack of cards. Teams would be insolvent almost instantly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest av1 Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 1 minute ago, Xela said: True enough, but I can't see how wages and transfers can keep increasing at such a rate. Players picking up £250k a week would seem fairly standard at the big clubs now, will that be £500k a week in 2 years? £1m a week in 5 years? Yet old Doris the tea lady in the office still earns the living wage. Fans will eventually get turned off by it. A lot of people my age I know (late 30's) are falling out of the love with the game and its not just Villa fans because we are shit, its fans of teams like Liverpool and Man Utd as well. The standard answer seems to be "Yeah I still follow them, but not as much as I used to". Obviously younger fans don't know another era and probably just refer to people like me as miserable bastards living in the past! It all seems to be built in TV money and if that ever stopped/reduced, it would fall down like a pack of cards. Teams would be insolvent almost instantly. Yeah i see you point. I'm not sure though how much fans really care about players wages in the grand scheme of things, providing i) The club isn't in a mess as a result of it. ii) We aren't paying for it, it terms of silly ticket prices. Now i know ticket prices are high at the moment, but given the amount of money coming into the game via TV deals, i really do believe that in the coming years we might see a lowering of ticket prices as these become an ever smaller percentage of a clubs income (we are alrady seeing clubs signing up to away day caps). So if the club is in a healthy financial position, and your paying £20 for a match day ticket, are you really to bothered if your star player is getting £300k pw? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 Walker for £40m is just laziness, they have that academy, youth set up, scouting network, all those coaches, pep, the spaniards above him and they've just gone and spent mega money on someone who's not good enough but they don't need to do anything with see what Bayern do to replace lahm, they bought kimmich a few seasons back and have him geared up, they'll probably buy someone like henrichs too 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 (edited) 8 minutes ago, villa4europe said: Walker for £40m is just laziness, they have that academy, youth set up, scouting network, all those coaches, pep, the spaniards above him and they've just gone and spent mega money on someone who's not good enough but they don't need to do anything with see what Bayern do to replace lahm, they bought kimmich a few seasons back and have him geared up, they'll probably buy someone like henrichs too Here's one of their problems. Edited May 27, 2017 by Dr_Pangloss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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