chips'ngravy Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 Surely Ellis could have got someone to sponsor Villa Park. Would that have been received so warmly? It seemed that a few days ago everyone was creaming themselves precisely because he was a billionnaire. Again, as I said before i think he will spend money, not Abramovich style but more than we could have dreamed of in recent years. I just can't understand why you'd want to start making excuses for him not spending his money on Villa. If Cleveland continue to be his main priority then maybe he's not the right man. I'm not sure that's true, but it shows how far esteem in Villa has slipped if you are prepared to accept that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leviramsey Posted August 21, 2006 VT Supporter Share Posted August 21, 2006 Given the current sponsorship environment though, the people who are most likely to 'trump' up the cash are the Internet gambling firms. So you could end up with 888.com stadium. Punchy! About which the NFL is almost certain to have some words with Randy about. Agreements signed under the Ellis tenure (32Red, bookmaker links on the official site, etc.) will probably be allowed to play out, with Randy being unable to renew them. The NFL prohibits any advertising for gambling on their TV broadcasts... including advertising for tourist destinations that feature gambling (i.e. Vegas). The NFL even prohibits the NBC network from promoting Las Vegas during game broadcasts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irishjay Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 If we want to compete with Newcastle, Liverpool, Arsenal, Spurs, Chelsea, and United we will have to open up to corporate sponsorship and naming the stadium, anything that can bring in extra revenue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudy Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 Whatever. Let's just take the money that the naming rights would obtain and then still call it VP as it will always be called Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigJim Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 Let's face it, until we really start winning things, nobody is going to pay us any serious money. There's no way it will work the other way round, i.e. somebody gives us enough money for the name for us to build a team of world beaters with. Lets face it, theres no way Ellis is selling the club Lets face it there no way Martin O'Neill will become our manager Lets face it theres no way Aston Villa will be owned by a Billionaire Just a few things that people have said will not happen in the not to distant past, It might just happen. Let's face it, Villa won't finish top 3 in MON's first year... (I'll keep trotting them out, you make 'em happen ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted August 21, 2006 Moderator Share Posted August 21, 2006 I wouldn't want to sit in the Poundsavers arenadome, knowing that the sponsorship had paid for some insect spray a cup of coffee and a watering can, but I'd accept sitting in at IMG Villa Park knowing that the (say) 10 million quid per year had been spent by Martin O'Neill on players to entertain me with winning football. It's all down to the details Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattley Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 Villa Park is Villa Park. Its where Aston Villa play and I dont want it changed There are plenty of other ways to gain commercial sponsorship without re-naming the stadium Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodders Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 we'll always play at the same ground, sitting in either the north stand, holte end, trinity road or the witton lane stand. The seats will be claret and blue, there will be a montage to our euro 82 winners and recognition of our successful and rpoud past, and quality players on the football pitch but call it something other than villa park and it's an outrage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trinity-Tom Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 Whatever its "name" is, it will ALWAYS be Villa Park to us and therefore I would be happy with the cash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gringo Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 I wouldn't want to sit in the Poundsavers arenadome, knowing that the sponsorship had paid for some insect spray a cup of coffee and a watering can, but I'd accept sitting in at IMG Villa Park knowing that the (say) 10 million quid per year had been spent by Martin O'Neill on players to entertain me with winning football. It's all down to the details Spot on. No point selling the name now, how much are we going to get for it. We shouldn't consider selling the name until it is worth top dollar. I like 'Villa Park' - as a kid I thought it was great no one else played at a ground with their own name in it, still do I suppose. So allowing someone to brand the stadium as per blandy's example, great. But not rename it after an airline, too much class for that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasthevillan Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 Ellis could never have got naming rights to the ground sold for real money because we were seen as club that was going no where, if anywhere backwards, and what company would want to put their name to that. Also the reason that we have a shit shirt sponson worth 2p a week. I think Lerner will first need to spend some big money before large companies take us seriously, like all those haters who keep saying ''you cant do anything 'til January!' dont the tossers realise we have been waiting long enough and cant wait for the late Christmas presents that Randy will bring us! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claretnbluejersey Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 The way i see it if we can get a large sum of money for a sponsor to put their name before Villa Park then im cool with that. For Example if we had MBNA as our stadium and shirt sponsonrs then most likely the ground would be known as, The MBNA Villa Park. For me this wouldnt be a problem as it would still be known by the fans as Villa Park but more importantly it will still be referred to as JUST Villa Park by the media also IMO. Combine that with a hefty amount of sponsorship money and a shirt sponsorship also then i think its a win win situation. Totally agree, except so what if the media called it MBNA Villa Park. Good sponsorship will allow us to have pride in our club once more. I would be happy to asscoiate myself / my team with a company who was funding the club (ethicaly). We have all dreamed of a future with investment and success, don't be afriad of change. MBNAVP 8) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NurembergVillan Posted August 21, 2006 Moderator Share Posted August 21, 2006 as a kid I thought it was great no one else played at a ground with their own name in it, still do I suppose. Apart from Port Vale :oops: :winkold: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duffman Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 Do I want the name changed from Villa Park? No. Would I tolerate it if it happened? Certainly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pelle Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 I like the idea of "Fortress Villa Park" very much. But I still voted no. A part of Villas soul is in the VP IMO. But then again, £100m is a lot of money. Here's a question: What would you rather take, £100m for renaming it completely, Coca-Coal Stadium, or say £50-75m for keeping Villa Park in the name, MBNA Villa Park? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 I like the idea of "Fortress Villa Park" very much. But I still voted no. A part of Villas soul is in the VP IMO. But then again, £100m is a lot of money. Here's a question: What would you rather take, £100m for renaming it completely, Coca-Coal Stadium, or say £50-75m for keeping Villa Park in the name, MBNA Villa Park? or, to phrase this another way, would you rather watch Villa in the Champions league at the Coca Cola Stadium, or mid table premiership at villa park. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pelle Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 I like the idea of "Fortress Villa Park" very much. But I still voted no. A part of Villas soul is in the VP IMO. But then again, £100m is a lot of money. Here's a question: What would you rather take, £100m for renaming it completely, Coca-Coal Stadium, or say £50-75m for keeping Villa Park in the name, MBNA Villa Park? or, to phrase this another way, would you rather watch Villa in the Champions league at the Coca Cola Stadium, or mid table premiership at villa park. That's another good point. This isn't easy. At least not for me. But of course, CL is very tempting but there's no guarantee of CL, but still, you got a point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drat01 Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 Just as a side point there is a small town just outside of Chicago called Villa Park - I got a few photo's Ok back on topic and sorry for that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
journeyman Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 I was doing a bit of research and spurs are getting £8.5m per season for a shirt sponsor. If they can get that just for the shirt, I would want atleast £10m+ per season for the shirt stadium combination. That sort of money can go a long way, especially when we compare it to the peanuts we are getting right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCinSpain Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 If Villa Park could be incorporated within a new name, then I'd be in favour, as the fans will still only call it VP. But it's a fair point that if waiting until our profile is higher and worth more money, it might be better to wait a season or so, unless of course, Randy's connections would bring in a big sponsorship deal earlier than we think is possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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