Richard Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 I'd swap with blunderland any day of the week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VILLAFC2000 Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Is it true he walked in to Faulkners office at one morning training session and basically said beat it if you think you can do better go for it and then stormed out without saying bye to anyone..?!!! Who exactly are you expecting to confirm or deny that story? I don't think either of those two post on here. Dont really understand your point. The big picture is that Villa are a lot worse of without MON. Pat Murphy who is usually spot on the money I believe claimed this or took a similar diplomatIc view. Then again its all rumourmill. I was just wandering if anyone had any quotes or any other stories ect ect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 Pat Murphy who is usually spot on the money I believe claimed this or took a similar diplomatIc view. Then again its all rumourmill. I was just wandering if anyone had any quotes or any other stories ect ect. Isnt Pat Murphy MONS's mate? wouldnt call his view diplomatic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 He resigned a few months earlier if you recall, Lerner persuaded him to stay, but the damage was done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDuck Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 I know he is doing well at Sunderland but i feel that is more to do with the new manager syndrome Ah yes, I remember how well we played when Houllier and McLeish first came in. I'm beginning to think that New Manager Syndrome only happens when the manager knows what he's doing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 I know he is doing well at Sunderland but i feel that is more to do with the new manager syndrome Ah yes, I remember how well we played when Houllier and McLeish first came in. I'm beginning to think that New Manager Syndrome only happens when the manager knows what he's doing!To be fair even under those two we had a mini new manager syndrome. Both of them also had really bad patches going into Christmas though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDuck Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 I know he is doing well at Sunderland but i feel that is more to do with the new manager syndrome Ah yes, I remember how well we played when Houllier and McLeish first came in. I'm beginning to think that New Manager Syndrome only happens when the manager knows what he's doing!To be fair even under those two we had a mini new manager syndrome. Both of them also had really bad patches going into Christmas though. I think with McLeish we went from barely acceptable to totally unacceptable, so I see your point. Houllier got one win in his first 8 games! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VILLAFC2000 Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 I know he is doing well at Sunderland but i feel that is more to do with the new manager syndrome Ah yes, I remember how well we played when Houllier and McLeish first came in. I'm beginning to think that New Manager Syndrome only happens when the manager knows what he's doing!To be fair even under those two we had a mini new manager syndrome. Both of them also had really bad patches going into Christmas though. MON - Streets ahead of AM & GH without a doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4 Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 my take on MON's signings (taking into account transfer fees): GOOD: A Young Friedel Milner Downing Dunne AVERAGE: Petrov Carew Knight Guzan L Young Collins Heskey BAD: Maloney Routledge Knight Salifou Davies Reo-Coker Harewood Sidwell Shorey Cuellar Delph Beye Warnock Carson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarethRDR Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 my take on MON's signings (taking into account transfer fees): GOOD: A Young Friedel Milner Downing Dunne AVERAGE: Petrov Carew Knight Guzan L Young Collins Heskey BAD: Maloney Routledge Knight Salifou Davies Reo-Coker Harewood Sidwell Shorey Cuellar Delph Beye Warnock Carson Well, which is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted February 28, 2012 VT Supporter Share Posted February 28, 2012 I honestly don't think you can say Knight was a bad signing. He wasn't a great player, but he wasn't bad. Played a load of games and provided some great moments (debut goal vs Chelsea. Equaliser in the 90th minute vs Arsenal) He loved the club and we sold him for a profit (I think) Not amazing by any stretch of the imagination, but I think he was a decent signing in retrospect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarethRDR Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 ^Yup. I'd have him in the "good" camp. Did a job, made us money. Can't ask for much more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloBarnesi Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 I think you need more classifications: Excellent/Good/Average/Below Average/Rubbish/Beye I wouldn’t say that Carew and Petrov in any way were average signings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarethRDR Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 I think you need more classifications: Excellent/Good/Average/Below Average/Rubbish/Beye Just one minor amendment... Salifou/Excellent/Good/Average/Below Average/Rubbish/Beye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 knights better than collins in my opinion. even curt was better than collins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob182 Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 I think you need more classifications: Excellent/Good/Average/Below Average/Rubbish/Beye I wouldn’t say that Carew and Petrov in any way were average signings. We could have got better for what we paid for Petrov. So I'd still put him in the average bracket Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudevillaisnice Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 L Young average? I'd take him over Hutton that's for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voinjama Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 my take on MON's signings (taking into account transfer fees): GOOD: A Young Friedel Milner Downing Dunne AVERAGE: Petrov Carew Knight Guzan L Young Collins Heskey BAD: Maloney Routledge Knight Salifou Davies Reo-Coker Harewood Sidwell Shorey Cuellar Delph Beye Warnock Carson You have Knight twice, I would say Knight was average. I would also put Heskey in the bad category, but I agree with the rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shillzz Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 I'd put pretty much all the average signings as good, apart from Heskey, particularly when you consider how they played under Oneill / how much they cost. Collins for example was a rock in his first year, Carew was a huge fan favourite and Petrov has been a lynchpin of our side since he joined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted February 28, 2012 VT Supporter Share Posted February 28, 2012 Yeah I don't see how you can class Carew as anything other than a great signing. Sure he had a pretty poor final season, but he cost us effectively nothing (swapped for Baros who was Turd) and was our top scorer for the time he was here (I think!) Plus he was a fan favourite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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