Big_John_10 Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 One of the most depressing sights this season is watching nzogbia run with the ball. You think back to young and downing and it just makes me sad to watch this guy run straight into defenders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulver Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 You think back to young and downing and it just makes me sad to watch this guy run straight into defenders. Probably because : 1. He's a 10m player, the pair that left were probably worth 20 and 25m. Is it any wonder he's not in their league ? 2. The two that left were often criticised on here when we DID have them!. We even had talk that Ash wasn't good enough for us. Just like the ridiculous debate some are trying to start now regarding Bent Basically. Some of our supporters, are NEVER happy with what we have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 I've criticised him a lot but N'Zogbia has looked a lot better lately and lets not forget that a lot of our midfielders in recent years have taken time to settle in and become good players (Milner, Downing and Petrov all spring to mind). Futhermore, if we can get some form out of him and Ireland we could cause some teams some problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 One of the most depressing sights this season is watching nzogbia run with the ball. You think back to young and downing and it just makes me sad to watch this guy run straight into defenders. i suppose you didnt see Ashley Young in his last 18 months here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.Bear Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 People need to accept the fact that a firing N'Zogbia is our best player and stop slagging him off. Hopefully we will see it soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 Milner's a better example, he took a while to even get in our team and really got going from February 2009 which was 5 months after he signed. Exactly. But surely people knew Milner from his previous spell at the club; a player who never was never shy of putting in a shift, even when he was poor you knew he was doing his best. Charles to be fair looks a little shy at times... Didn't stop plenty of people questioning him on here, the 12m fee (I said he would be worth every penny and was proved right), his crossing ability, his shooting, why he wasn't scoring more goals. I remember at the time Rocafella (whatever happened to him, a right whinge bag even when we were doing well) saying we should've signed SWP instead! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloBarnesi Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 People need to accept the fact that a firing N'Zogbia/Gabby/Ireland/Albrighton/Petrov/Bent/Given etc is our best player and stop slagging him off. Hopefully we will see it soon. I think you could say that for lots of players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 He does have a good delivery, there's no question about that. It's his consistancy that let's him down. For every great cross there's 8 shit ones. I actually don't think he does, most of the free kicks he's taken for us have been wretched. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 As someone earlier in this thread said, or another one not sure, they sat next to Martinez at a recent game and he commented we will never get the best out of him playing him deep left sided he is at his best playing free on the right as the above poster says.[/quote We did this at the start of the season, N'zog on the right and Gabby on the left, either side of Bent. The thing is though to get Bent scoring in the 2nd half of the season, Albrighton needs to start as he's easily the best crosser at the club and I can't see him getting as many in playing on the left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 We did this at the start of the season, N'zog on the right and Gabby on the left, either side of Bent. The thing is though to get Bent scoring in the 2nd half of the season, Albrighton needs to start as he's easily the best crosser at the club and I can't see him getting as many in playing on the left. I'll ask again as I got ignored the last time, but since when is Darren Bent decent in the air? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 Indeed. I love Bent but he really is poor in the air, which is why I can't understand why we STILL treat him like a target man. Get balls into his feet FFS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 Probably because : 1. He's a 10m player The £10m is starting to look a bit silly isn't it £1.5m player at most Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houlston Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 Probably because : 1. He's a 10m player The £10m is starting to look a bit silly isn't it £1.5m player at most :shock: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_John_10 Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 One of the most depressing sights this season is watching nzogbia run with the ball. You think back to young and downing and it just makes me sad to watch this guy run straight into defenders. i suppose you didnt see Ashley Young in his last 18 months here? No I saw him along with cappello and ferguson. Comparing ash to nzogbia will be as ridiculous as your comparison on the keane thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidlewis Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 Probably because : 1. He's a 10m player The £10m is starting to look a bit silly isn't it £1.5m player at most nearly heard it all now. You could argue Ashley Young wasn't worth £9.75m in his first season tbh. Same for Downing when he joined. Only three buys who came in straight to acheivement has been Milner, bent and Dunne, possibly Friedel as well as he started well. Coker - took time Collins - Took Time Laursen - was he not injured when we bought him? Downing - recovering from injury and as a result exceedingly average as he is now at Liverpool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 One of the most depressing sights this season is watching nzogbia run with the ball. You think back to young and downing and it just makes me sad to watch this guy run straight into defenders. i suppose you didnt see Ashley Young in his last 18 months here? No I saw him along with cappello and ferguson. Comparing ash to nzogbia will be as ridiculous as your comparison on the keane thread. what comparison on the Keane thread. Also never once compared Zog to Young Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob182 Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 One of the most depressing sights this season is watching nzogbia run with the ball. You think back to young and downing and it just makes me sad to watch this guy run straight into defenders. i suppose you didnt see Ashley Young in his last 18 months here? No I saw him along with cappello and ferguson. Comparing ash to nzogbia will be as ridiculous as your comparison on the keane thread. I remember Ash having one good game in 5 last year (and that was FOR Capello in an England shirt). I also remember him running into players, much like N'Zogbia does.... and no-one can deny the fact that he never reached the heights of his performances in his first couple of seasons. I imagine Ferguson thought that with better players around him, and more opportunities to swing crosses in, he'd be a good asset. He's been okay for Man Utd. I imagine N'Zogbia would be a decent player for Man Utd if he had as many opportunities to cross/ attack as Ash does as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCforever1991 Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 One of the most depressing sights this season is watching nzogbia run with the ball. You think back to young and downing and it just makes me sad to watch this guy run straight into defenders. i suppose you didnt see Ashley Young in his last 18 months here? thats because his mind was already in manchester, still gave it 100% but he was already gone in his mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCforever1991 Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 Probably because : 1. He's a 10m player The £10m is starting to look a bit silly isn't it £1.5m player at most lol that is just silly, he is at least 6m, just give him time im sure he'll come good, and prove everyone wrong, im sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 We did this at the start of the season, N'zog on the right and Gabby on the left, either side of Bent. The thing is though to get Bent scoring in the 2nd half of the season, Albrighton needs to start as he's easily the best crosser at the club and I can't see him getting as many in playing on the left. I'll ask again as I got ignored the last time, but since when is Darren Bent decent in the air? He's scored a few for us....scored from a cross at West Ham last season and then a week later scored a magnificent header at home t Stoke. He scored quite a few at Sunderland, I remember a great leap at Bolton on his Sunderland debut. I agree he's not great from general play and flicking on long hoofs from Collins but get enough crosses in and Bent will eventually flick one in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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