VillaChris Posted April 9, 2016 Share Posted April 9, 2016 Can't believe they haven't even reached 40 points yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arj Guy Posted April 9, 2016 Share Posted April 9, 2016 (edited) Everton fans getting slated for the banners on social media. Some **** people!! They're the ones who watch their team every week and they can see that Martinez is underachieving so shut up. Edited April 9, 2016 by Arj Guy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted April 9, 2016 Share Posted April 9, 2016 Everton 14th now, below West Brom, Bournemouth....and Swansea in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penguin Posted April 9, 2016 Share Posted April 9, 2016 2 hours ago, Arj Guy said: Everton fans getting slated for the banners on social media. Some **** people!! They're the ones who watch their team every week and they can see that Martinez is underachieving so shut up. Yeah how dare they express an objective opinion! A banner is an absolute joke at this stage of the season. Are they really going to sack him now with a cup semi-final around the corner? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted April 9, 2016 Share Posted April 9, 2016 Martinez is an absolutely shite manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arj Guy Posted April 9, 2016 Share Posted April 9, 2016 1 minute ago, penguin said: Yeah how dare they express an objective opinion! A banner is an absolute joke at this stage of the season. Are they really going to sack him now with a cup semi-final around the corner? Everton were poor last season and have been even worse this season. Have the squad to finish in the top 8 and are 14th, adrift of 10th. Not good enough at all but for some reason they're fans are being told by non Everton fans that they should accept it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supernova26 Posted April 9, 2016 Share Posted April 9, 2016 They are clowns just looking at their league position not factoring in they have games in hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arj Guy Posted April 9, 2016 Share Posted April 9, 2016 Just now, supernova26 said: They are clowns just looking at their league position not factoring in they have games in hand. why? because they don't have it as bad as us? Martinez is doing a shocking job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 14th now Everton must wish for the days of Walter Smith and Mike Walker instead of this clown in charge, Palace beat them midweek they be 15th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a m ole Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 (edited) Can I point out that it was Stones **** about with an easy ball to deal with (clear it or push it outside for a pass to your fullback/winger) again that gave away the corner Watford scored from? Edited April 10, 2016 by a m ole 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudevillaisnice Posted April 10, 2016 Author Share Posted April 10, 2016 I'm all for confidence and playing out from the back etc but Stones has a bit of cockiness about him when he tries to do it. It really does not work out well when he has tried it recently. Think teams are starting to sense he has a mistake in him now and I've noticed they close him down when he has the ball a lot more; doesn't have the time and space he had at the start of the season for example. I think he is still a very good player but a long way to go yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 Rather have a cb like morgan or Huth who just defends. let the players further up the pitch play the football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 13 hours ago, supernova26 said: They are clowns just looking at their league position not factoring in they have games in hand. Palace away who've picked up and Liverpool away where they haven't won since 1909....sorry 1999. Not quite a shoe-in 6 points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 Rather have a cb like morgan or Huth who just defends. let the players further up the pitch play the football. Watching goals on Sunday, they've just had a five minute chat about those 2 just defending, winning everything not overplaying Then show the Everton goal where the Watford defender trying to bring down a dropping ball on the deg of his own box, mis controlling it, Everton score Nothing on stones... Blamed the Martinez out stuff on Leicester doing well 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 1 minute ago, villa4europe said: Watching goals on Sunday, they've just had a five minute chat about those 2 just defending, winning everything not overplaying Then show the Everton goal where the Watford defender trying to bring down a dropping ball on the deg of his own box, mis controlling it, Everton score Nothing on stones... Blamed the Martinez out stuff on Leicester doing well It's because he's a nice guy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a m ole Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 As I said before I'm all for defenders who can play it out, but it's about picking your moment. He even had the opportunity to move it to the outside and play the short pass down the wing but hesitated. I want him to learn when the right time to play is because he could be absolutely brilliant, but it happens far too frequently and that thing he did 'calming' the Everton fans down a few months ago suggests to me he thinks it's not a problem, when it clearly is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 said it before he is the English David Luiz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Artetasgirl Posted April 10, 2016 Visiting Supporter Popular Post Share Posted April 10, 2016 Right, I've read a lot of your rather neutral opinions on this so I'll give mine from the biased point of view as an Everton fan. I don't even know where to start... On Martinez...all started well, his first season kind of blew us all away and in turn made his own job for the future even more difficult. The football we played was breathtaking at times and I was genuinely excited going to watch us play. We nearly went an entire calendar year unbeaten at home only to lose on the last match for that year (undeservedly so too). Last year, was a bit middle of the road, we were genuinely in a relegation fight until a few of the senior players stood up and almost single handedly dragged us back up the table. This season has just gone even worse. 1 win in the last SIX AND A HALF MONTHS that wasn't against a team in the bottom 3. 4 home wins all season, 8 losses, on track for being one of, if not THE worst home performing seasons in our entire history! The football is slow and predictable, the team are weak, unfit and barely press at all. His substitutions defy belief, I'm still stunned that at 2 up with 10 men against West Ham he took off Lennon and brought on Niasse (who looks woeful on what little we've seen so far). I like the guy and I want him to be a success but his stubborness, and the delusion he shows with his comments drive me insane. It's grown tiresome for a lot of fans now and the worst thing he could have done was make Baines look a fool, Baines who the fans adore and is a local lad, one of us...he only told us what we all knew anyway! At least he was honest! But the fact he calls this draw with Watford a "strong scoreline" and then you get McCarthy coming out basically saying how disappointed they are with a draw, it shows the disconnect. At the end of the day, that squad is capable of so much more. I've seen them dismantle class teams! But a combination of what I mentioned previously just makes us lose so much. It's a chore going to Goodison now. Lukaku. Yes, he's great on his day, but he needs a partner to do his running. He is obsessed with goals but not a lot else. When he plays his last two performances you even wonder how he has scored as many goals as he has this season. If he wants to go, he can. He's only irreplacable if he plays like he can every single week and I don't know if he wants it enough. You can echo that last comment about Barkley too. The amount of players who walk by him with the ball and he isn't even bothered about the thought of throwing a tackle in. He can do wonderful things but I fear he'll never be what he could. I massively doubt anyone would pay what we'd want for him. Stones is a funny one. He might go...he might stay. He has the potential to be incredible but he needs a Vidic type player next to him and Jagielka is getting on now. When he learns to kick it out he'll be superb but I don't see it under a manager who tells him not to! Joel isn't that great, but he's better than Howard. Goalkeeper has to be a priority in the summer. I don't know one Everton fan who wants Martinez to stay at present. I'd give him a chance if I saw he was making efforts to change, ie. Bring in a class defensive coach, but he won't so for me he's got to go. I've rambled on a bit there and I doubt it makes sense, and I've almost certainly missed things out I wanted to say but I just tried to give things from an Everton perspective. The feelings this season has been compounded by how badly everyone else has done and the frustration of seeing Spurs and Leicester and West Ham up there when in our eyes, our squad is strong and deep enough in quality to be up there with them. 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjw63 Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 Haha, your description of Martinez sounds like my description of the idiot Lambert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 Another great result for them.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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