Hanky Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 Torres used to be deceptively quick. Think injuries have had a massive knock on effect and he has lost that extra yard which is a shame. I think it is more down to this than form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted December 18, 2011 Moderator Share Posted December 18, 2011 Its nothing to do with form and everything to do with fitness, Torres has been ruined by injuries and being asked to play through them and quite simply by playing too much football. While I expect him to improve on his current form I think his best days are firmly behind him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 Its nothing to do with form and everything to do with fitness, Torres has been ruined by injuries and being asked to play through them and quite simply by playing too much football. think Rafa Benitez should take a lot of this blame as he made such a balls of Liverpool that they only ever had Torres or Gerrard who could win games and needed both fit any means necessary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rev Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 He is signing for Milan when the window opens just so they can get rid of him on loan to Atleti. It's a sad end to his career, isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coda Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 What a player at his peak. Shit hair but what a player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 Lost his prime four years ago. He's been playing first team football since what 16? 17? By 26 he already had a lot of miles on the clock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rev Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 He's approaching 700 career games at first team level. Andres Iniesta is a few weeks younger and also on about 700. Wayne Rooney is eighteen months younger and on about 650. Arjen Robben is a couple of months older than Torres and is on about 550, but he has had a lot of injury problems in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 I actually think he'll do o.k at Atletico. Back home with fan adolation he hasn't had since Liverpool, think Simeone will give him a lot of confidence, he'll rotate with Mandzukic and they're a pretty good team anyway. That injury he got in the world cup final seemed to make him lose half a yard of pace as it's easy to forget what explosive side he used to have, think of all the maulings he used to give Vidic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 This is a strange transfer isn't it. Is it as bad as it looks? i.e. Milan have agreed to a 2 year loan but they are so disappointed with him they have had to take him on permanently just so they can move him on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarewsEyebrowDesigner Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 They must really want rid of him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abdomlahor Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 They're only doing it so they can get Alessio Cerci for him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rev Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 I'm not sure why Milan would want Cerci. I presume Tyrion or Jamie were unavailable? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 So Chelsea will release him on a free, he'll sign for Milan and then a couple of days later sign for Madrid on loan? I do t understand the middle man bit of it If Chelsea are releasing him or even selling him to Milan for £1-2m then why is he signing for Milan rather than just straight to atletico? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rev Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 Probably because of some legal red tape or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtsimonw Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 Torres is going to Atletico on loan, in return for Cerci going the other way (Milan must be laughing with that deal). I imagine Milan signing Torres first is just them playing it a bit safe in the hope that if it doesn't work out they either 1) still have Torres coming back should the deal be cancelled, rather than having neither or 2) they think they could potentially get a little cash for Torres at some point. Milan are really cheap, they sign someone on a free if it meant they could make a tenner at some point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenko#4 Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 So Chelsea will release him on a free, he'll sign for Milan and then a couple of days later sign for Madrid on loan? I do t understand the middle man bit of it If Chelsea are releasing him or even selling him to Milan for £1-2m then why is he signing for Milan rather than just straight to atletico? I think it is because Atletico can't afford all of Torres' wages. Milan are still covering some of his Chelsea wages as he is essentially contracted to them for another 18 months as part of the loan deal. Torres isn't going to want to lose out on any of the £175k a week he is owed by Chelsea, Milan agreed to pay a significant amount of this for two years then realised he was rubbish, so now Atletico are paying the significant amount and I'm presuming Milan cover what Chelsea were covering. Chelsea end up owing nothing, Milan end up paying less for the next 18 months, and Torres still gets all his wages and to play for Atletico. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 (edited) As was said earlier, Torres at his peak was exceptional for Liverpool. It is like he lost it overnight. Edited December 28, 2014 by Xela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 £50m player, is only 30 and nobody wants him. Its an incredible drop off in form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 He was on a two year loan at Meelan purely so Chelsea can run down his contract and eventually get shot of him. So Meelan can loan a loan player to another club, they need to sign him permanently to do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 Yep, I think everyone gets that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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