smetrov Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 Or how about just simply, PL wants another experienced CB to play alongside our existing CBs He can't play alongside them both. Ideally Vlaar\Lescott - which as VGM said would limit clark to rotation or fringe player. Given the silence on Ron Vlaar it could be that he won't be returning soon (he doesn't have a great injury record) - and that Lescott\Clark will hold the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Con Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 You've convinced me Clark is world class - no wonder he's at a top four club! Where did I say Clark was world class or that he should be playing for a top four club? Vermaelen has a better offensive game than Clark - at least, a better proven offensive game. This is what gets him in the Arsenal team while Vermaelen's defensive game is, in my opinion, not world class, or even good, at times. A good defense first centre back should be winning more than 59% of his headers. He doesn't but still retains his place over Per Mertesacker (who wins 69% of his headers) because he has a better offensive game. BTW I made a mistake earlier when I said Clark had never been caught in possession this season. Here are the actual stats for our defence. Frequency player gets caught in possession. Once every... Herd: 393 minutes Baker: 385 minutes Vlaar: 298 minutes Clark: 251 minutes Lowton: 190 minutes Stevens: 188 minutes Lichaj: 80 minutes Bennett: 58 minutes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 IMO Vermaelen is a far superior defender than Clark! well at moment both are playing crap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villaglint Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 Very poor again last night. He looks all at sea at the moment. Got schooled by Hansen. I can still remember a day when prospects with potential used to learn their trade out on loan with clubs or by coming on late in games and bedding in slowly. Why on earth do we have a whole team learning their trade at the same time in the f**king Premier League?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pez1974 Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 The guy is now 23, and has over 50 games for us. He is no longer young, nor inexperienced. He is also our captain of late, although that ain't his fault - but he is a terrible captain. He doesn't seem to be able to read the game as a defender, and is always having to be bailed out. Personally, I think he won't make it and we should get rid whilst we can get a few quid for him - Baker is a better player and a better prospect, so should play ahead of him. IF the coaches think there is something there, keep hold but treat him like a player who needs a lot of coaching - which means he shouldn't be our captain, and shouldn't be in the team most weeks. I know this means we need another CB, but we all know that! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supermon Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 does not win enough headers for me, Ive never really rated Clark and honestly think Baker is ahead in terms of the pecking order, do not think he should be getting the captains armband either, we need Vlaar back as Captain or get a midfield general and make him captain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 He was appalling last night, his positioning was all over the place. made Big Jim Hanson look like Edison Cavani at times. Sad to say since the Newcastle 6-0 he hasnt improved one ounce as centre back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCAM Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 I used to rate Clark, but this year he has been awful. I do worry about another Cahill situation if we sell him though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nabby Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 He played better as a CM IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanvilla_1994 Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 Not a premier league centre half and I don't think he's good enough in midfield either. Unless he improves dramatically I think we need to get rid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 Which prick thought giving him the armband was a good idea.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROTTERDAM1982 Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 Reminds me of Dean Glover, good on the ball, a nice footballer, but too slow and too weak to play CH.A 4th division CF could/should have got about 3/4 goals last night, and that was down to Clarks inadequacies.A nice bloke, but not good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beasley14 Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 You can't play Cb when you don't win headers! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumstopdogs Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 Captain fantastic had another mare! At least he's better than Vermaelen though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumstopdogs Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 (edited) Clark reminds me of a school level footballer! Watching the defending of set pieces last night (or crosses) he was normally a yard behind the player who was getting a header in! So slow, so cumbersome, so weak. Captain of Aston Villa football club? Never in a million years! Edited January 9, 2013 by Brumstopdogs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanky Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 Not one to organise the defence. He is one of the senior defenders and there isn't one ounce there at the minute. He is one of the reasons our defence has been so terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 Which prick thought giving him the armband was a good idea.? who else do you give it to. sadly he is among our most experienced outfielders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarpie Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 I think even Gabby would be better captain than Clark at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 well Gabby has been out of team for a while but I do agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikantcpell Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 Not good enough... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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